Klitschko versus Haye

[eazy_mas]

Well Chris Eubank had the worst Technique ive ever seen his attacking Boxing was awfull & he was a World Champion ,Carlos Maussa ,Ricardo Mayorga ,Pacquiao the list goes on & on and im not even saying Haye has bad technique

a blown up Cruserweight ,Holyfield ,Moorer ,Spinks funnily enough all heavweight Champions eh,and Spinks and Moorer both had questionable chins again im not even saying that Haye does have a questionable chin ,Moorer ,Spinks were Champions in a Much more competitive ERA than Today so what is so outlandish to say in a few years Haye could beat Vlad or at least be a Heavyweight Champion

Carlos Maussa is not that bad , he is a the rubber man but really vurniable against short left hooks but in straight punch he could easly move away from.

[Dynamite Kid]

Carlos Maussa is not that bad , he is a the rubber man but really vurniable against short left hooks but in straight punch he could easly move away from.

he has far inferior Technique than Haye

[SHB]

I'd file him under the "weight drained heavyweight" category rather than "blown up cruiserweight" personally. He'll need to be careful not to blow himself up too much, which I rather worry he might ... it's what tends to happen.

I know what you mean by "fights like an amateur" and people do buy into the hype because he looks very flashy and has a good KO %. Granted he has flaws, particularly defensively as you've alluded to where he can be pretty easy to hit, and he is clearly overrated by some but he does have some genuine offensive skills which will be even better when he tightens them up, which he'll need to do. If he doesn't improve I agree he'll be dominated by anyone half competent, although I'd be surprised if that includes any of that domestic shower of ****.

[SHB]

agreed about enzo mate, plus his chin would be a massive issue at that weight and i only think it would be a matter of time before he had his lights switched off

I think his recent fights against Dominguez, Hobson and Braithwaite have put to bed my lingering doubts over his chin. Enzo's big problem previously was that he was all left hook and nothing else and got caught hard and often because of a blatant disregard for the basics, defence and his own personal safety. I've really been impressed by his development in the Calzaghe stable. If Mormeck comes through his bout with Haye (which I predict he will, possibly by late stoppage), I'd love to see a proper unification fight between the two.

[Dynamite Kid]

I'd file him under the "weight drained heavyweight" category rather than "blown up cruiserweight" personally. He'll need to be careful not to blow himself up too much, which I rather worry he might ... it's what tends to happen.

I know what you mean by "fights like an amateur" and people do buy into the hype because he looks very flashy and has a good KO %. Granted he has flaws, particularly defensively as you've alluded to where he can be pretty easy to hit, and he is clearly overrated by some but he does have some genuine offensive skills which will be even better when he tightens them up, which he'll need to do. If he doesn't improve I agree he'll be dominated by anyone half competent, although I'd be surprised if that includes any of that domestic shower of ****.

i said myself that Haye has defensive frailtys thats why i said i think Enzo would currently beat him he does make Ameteur mistakes but that is the reason people have said that currently he is not ready in a few years he has the ability to be what he wants to be

the Ameteur mistakes he makes were evident in his last fight with Bonin when he hurt Bonin and he smoothered his work instead of picking his shots but that can be ironed out, lennox Lewis had a lot of frailtys when he started out did'nt have the best chin either ,hell Lenny got outboxed by Frank Bruno

no one is over hyping him they are excited about the ability he has

[duffgun]

when you say that he throws hooks badly i know what your talking about the hook he throw against bonin was very bad but he doesn't normally throw them like that i watched the Lasse Johansen fight and his hooks were much better in that fight you should watch all his fights before judging him. we will know more about him after he moves up.

[moofo]

If Hay got KO'd by a journeyman cruiserweight, what is a REAL heavyweight going to do to him? This bum Bonin means nothing, look at Tua who KO'd Ruiz in 19 sec and Michael Moorer in 21 sec.

First ....he never got KO'ed.
Second he was in his 11th fight against a Very Wily solid fighter in Carl "The Cat" Thompson who had some good names on his record.
Haye ran out of Gas in that fight and has since addressed those stamina issues.
He was spending too much time modelling and parading instead of knuckling down back then
The Thompson loss was the making of him.
He has since grown naturally into the frame we see today and will have much more power and hydration at heavyweight whilst keeping his speed.
He stopped Bonin legitimately in the first round and Fraudley Harrison could only get a controversial stoppage in round 9.
As far as the British scene goes that puts him right in the mix.
At 27 he is still as Heavyweights go , coming into his best years.
I am not saying he is going to clean out the Heavyweight division but he will have some good wins and ...
HE ALWAYS COMES TO FIGHT.
The guy gives value for money.
I for one can't wait to see him.
He has a lot of potential and he is Hungry.
One to watch IMO.

[DURAN_IS_GOD]

First ....he never got KO'ed.
Second he was in his 11th fight against a Very Wily solid fighter in Carl "The Cat" Thompson who had some good names on his record.
Haye ran out of Gas in that fight and has since addressed those stamina issues.
He was spending too much time modelling and parading instead of knuckling down back then
The Thompson loss was the making of him.
He has since grown naturally into the frame we see today and will have much more power and hydration at heavyweight whilst keeping his speed.
He stopped Bonin legitimately in the first round and Fraudley Harrison could only get a controversial stoppage in round 9.
As far as the British scene goes that puts him right in the mix.
At 27 he is still as Heavyweights go , coming into his best years.
I am not saying he is going to clean out the Heavyweight division but he will have some good wins and ...
HE ALWAYS COMES TO FIGHT.
The guy gives value for money.
I for one can't wait to see him.
He has a lot of potential and he is Hungry.
One to watch IMO.

great points mate. people are far too quick to put a fighter in the gutter nowadays when he loses... people like barera, moseley, lewis, hopkins all lost and they came back better and stronger. haye was only young when he fought thompson and he's a completely different fighter. it will be exciting to have another british heavyweight in the mix and i'll be hoping he makes the transition from cruiser to heavy well.... after he knocks mormeck out hopefully!!

[-Antonio-]

I dont even think Haye will beat Mormeck. If any of you Brits want to bet, I'll put 20k down.

[WLAD OWNS]

This fight is a while off, at least a couple of years would be my guess. But who thinks Haye once he has established himself at heavyweight can take Wladimir's crown?? I think haye has a great chance. He is incredibly athletic, has great handspeed, very good combinations and with the added weight can only assume that his stamina should hopefully improve. I see this fight similar to the Sanders fight where handspeed and raw power do for Wladimir.... what are your thoughts guys??

You're a ******, David Haye would get KO'd by the first steelhammer right hand from Wlad. Wlad is one of the most talented Heavyweights of all time and this thread is a disgusting insult. Haye is a FRAUD.

Wlad vs Haye - Wlad KO 1