Question for DIOS and his FAN CLUB

[squealpiggy]

we americans have perfected the art of fighting, the european system of boxing is not very competitive. I mean look at calzaghe's resume where is the world class opposition

Yep, the last two American fighters that Calzaghe fought were Sugar Jeff Lacy and Bonecrusher Manfredo, they fought that perfect style of fighting that only Americans have perfected...

how come ottke never faced roy, toney, michael nunn, or any great 168-175 american fighter. he stayed in europe getting gift decisions. same goes for calzaghe getting hometown decisions all throughout his career.

Ottke was a scrub. Calzaghe beat Mario Veit on points in Germany. He hasn't always had "hometwon decisions".

imagine floyd or oscar only fighting in their hometown throughout their entire careers

Neither of those guys have ever fought outside the continental United States. Most of Floyd's fights have been in Michigan or Vegas, the rest have been on more or less neutral ground apart from aganst Gatti in Atlantic City. De La Hoya has similarly seldom fought outside Las Vegas. Calzaghe by comparison has fought outside the country twice (in Copenhagen and in Germany) and has spent about half of his career fighting outside Wales.

Not to forget he got blasted out by a journeyman semi-bum in Phillips.

In the good old days boxers were not dismissed because of a single loss. I'd like to see a return to that, perhaps then we would have less cautious scheduling decisions being made.

[deevel79]

Good point.

What does Floyd do in the ring that would give u reason to praise him, yet downplay Joe's performance Sat. night? I dont wanna hear about what Floyd has accomplished. I dont wanna hear what Floyd did at 130/135. I wanna know how is it that you Floydboyz saw Floyd's performance against Baldomir and Oscar, as a GREAT performance, yet say that what Joe did Sat night was less than stellar.

For the record, i was going for Kessler that night, but Joe sure did impress me for a guy his age. He didnt have to take risks late in the fight, and he did.

[QuCongee]

Calzaghe beat Mario Veit on points in Germany

uhhhh what?

[deevel79]

Good point.

What does Floyd do in the ring that would give u reason to praise him, yet downplay Joe's performance Sat. night? I dont wanna hear about what Floyd has accomplished. I dont wanna hear what Floyd did at 130/135. I wanna know how is it that you Floydboyz saw Floyd's performance against Baldomir and Oscar, as a GREAT performance, yet say that what Joe did Sat night was less than stellar.

For the record, i was going for Kessler that night, but Joe sure did impress me for a guy his age. He didnt have to take risks late in the fight, and he did.

Floyd HIMSELF gave credit to Calzahge, calling him the best fighter to ever come out of the U.K. I guess the Floydboyz caught a tit fit when Joe didnt return a favorable comment about Floyd. Calling Floyd a "runner" and saying that he will RUN from Hatton.

[deevel79]

Good point.

What does Floyd do in the ring that would give u reason to praise him, yet downplay Joe's performance Sat. night? I dont wanna hear about what Floyd has accomplished. I dont wanna hear what Floyd did at 130/135. I wanna know how is it that you Floydboyz saw Floyd's performance against Baldomir and Oscar, as a GREAT performance, yet say that what Joe did Sat night was less than stellar.
For the record, i was going for Kessler that night, but Joe sure did impress me for a guy his age. He didnt have to take risks late in the fight, and he did.

Hello. Any Floydboyz around to answer this question? I know its hard, but im sure one of u guys can come up with some sort of logical answer to this.

[FUMIN 88]

how come ottke never faced roy, toney, michael nunn, or any great 168-175 american fighter. he stayed in europe getting gift decisions. same goes for calzaghe getting hometown decisions all throughout his career.

imagine floyd or oscar only fighting in their hometown throughout their entire careers.

lol when has Calzaghe ever got a gift decision?

you sound like an ******* kid shut up im starting to belive all floyd fans are silly little kids just like you

[VIVA MEXICO!!!]

You created a thread, which I don't even bother reading, but judging by its title you were NOT impressed with Calzaghe's performance last night.

My question to you is this...

If you cannot appreciate the skills Calzaghe demonstrated in the ring, showing a heart of a champion, willing to take all the risks, not backing down, trading, even in the final rounds when he had the fight sealed, he still did not run...

So WHY DO YOU NUTHUG Mayweather so much?

Possible answers:
He is an American
He is NOT white
I like his arrogance

Perhaps you have more that you'd like to share

he was not impressed because unlike mayweather calzaghe was not afraid to fight the best and calzaghe was not fighting like a coward. i dont like calzaghes fighting style and he is arrogant like mayweather but at least he stepped up to the best challenge in his division unlike mayweather and he could actually draw people to watch him fight.

[El Jesus]

Neither of those guys have ever fought outside the continental United States. Most of Floyd's fights have been in Michigan or Vegas, the rest have been on more or less neutral ground apart from aganst Gatti in Atlantic City. De La Hoya has similarly seldom fought outside Las Vegas. Calzaghe by comparison has fought outside the country twice (in Copenhagen and in Germany) and has spent about half of his career fighting outside Wales.

Floyd fought in my hometown at the time of san francisco and the crowd not neutral at all, almost everyone in there was cheering for jesus chavez, the fight against castillo was similar with the majority of the crowd going for castillo. I mean, you really have to look at divisions when you ask why these guys never fought outside of the united states, when you think about 130/135/140/147 every single contender who has been worth something over the last 10 years has fought out of the united states american or not, i think sometimes in the midst of Calzhage/Hatton you guys forget its not just americans who are fighting out of america, EVERYONE who is usually worth something fights out of this country. Isreal Vasquez and Rafeal Marquez, 2 mexicans born and bred, yet their superfight was here in america, do you see what im saying?

Who should floyd have fought outside of the united states that wasnt already here? Seriously, like i said, jesus chavez was from chicago, yet their fight in san francisco was a majority mexican crowd almost all in his favor.

Seriously alot of fighters, De La Hoya etc, who should de la hoya have fought outside of the united states? I think you guys are emphasizing on a global emphasis that ISNT THERE for some divisions, especially in the lower weights where geographically mexico and puerto rico and the philipines are close enough to the united states and so many people have family ties here, they are gonna end up here one way or the other. Puerto Ricans are american citizens regardless so that doesnt even matter to begin with.

But either way i think you guys are taking this emphasis on americans not fighting outside of america too far, if you lived here you would understand that the demographics of this country are not like youre own, joe calzhage fighting in say Denmark is like if i fought out of southern california and then had a fight in south florida, its hostile territory.

Some of you forget this country is heavily divided culturally and no one american is gonna support a fighter just because hes american, race, culture and orgin play a factor in the support of the general public, not just the fact they are american, thats why people fight here, when have you seen an english fighter fighting in england and the majority of the crowd was cheering for a russian? thats how it is here.