ICEMAN - What do you think?

[CottoOverrated1]

Why Hagler ?

Hagler is a monster. hard hitter. technically sound. he can brawl and box. more polished than kessler.

[kayjay]

You know what, I take that back actually because Hagler walked around in the 150's while Calzaghe has always walked around at around 195 (without looking the least bit chubby)

I didn't want to get on this b/c it sounds like sacrilege. But Calzaghe is physically so much more than any of Hagler's opponents, it'd be tough.

[pesticid]

Roy was also a juicer and I used to be his biggest fan, that is before I caught on.

Scully,

Do you think Roy was juicing as early as the James Toney fight?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

That's the honest and fair assessment. No way Joe beats RJJ at 168, but he is a notch above what Toney was.

NO!!!

Not a notch above James. He might be able to beat James, but that doesn't make him a notch above.

Do you remember the best Toney?

[Easy-E]

I would love to see Calzaghe v Toney at 168.
That could go either way in my opinion.

[Left2body]

That's the honest and fair assessment. No way Joe beats RJJ at 168, but he is a notch above what Toney was.

He doesn't say Joe would've beaten JT he says he MIGHT'VE out busied JT. I think a prime JT vs JC would've depended on how the judges score. I think Calz would've landed a very low percentage of his shots but would've thrown much more. JT is a Great counter puncher and he would've caught JC with some beautiful counter straight rights and right uppercuts that are harder do more damage and land at a higher percentage rate.

JC has a solid chin but JT has a chance of hurting and KD JC at 168lbs. JT has a better chin and better defense (rolls well with punches and doesn't get hit cleanly).

So it depends on how they score it. I think JT would win though.

[RHETOЯIC]

Nunn who fought Kalambay would've beaten Calzaghe.

[Sweet Pea 50]

And I find it weird that Calzaghe fans hate Mayweather.
Could it it be nationlistic type of deal?
Yessir.
No hate by me. Calzaghe did the damn thing against Kessler.
Quit trying to lump us American fans into one group, and I won't lump the rest of you Euros into one Hatton ****sucking bandwagon.
Sound like a deal?

[Unseen]

I would love to see Calzaghe v Toney at 168.
That could go either way in my opinion.

****er you gave me 4 bad karma's lol. i woudl give it back but i need to share my karma or something. ah well cba ;p gimme soem good karma now plz.

[kayjay]

NO!!!

Not a notch above James. He might be able to beat James, but that doesn't make him a notch above.

Do you remember the best Toney?

Watched the videos many times. I appreciate Toney, had a hyperbolic morning after a great fight.