joe calzaghe has ducked no one.

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  • Technical_Skill
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    #41
    Originally posted by msagrain
    well, we know the heavey weight devision is dead. the supermiddle weight has some good established fighters.


    valev just went undeafeated so long just cus of the size of him. if he came you agent lewis id say lewis would ko him within 6 rounds cus no ones got the skills anymore in the hw devision.
    Your virtually agreeing with me, belt and records dont always make a fighter, its the same for Kessler, one win against Libero Andrade doesnt and a paper WBC title from a past it Markus Beyer doesnt = a win over Roy Jones, even now.

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      #42
      Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
      we all know rjj is just living of his name. seriouly if he wasnt rjj and just an normal fighter like he is now he wouldnt be getting all this tv time ect... he should of retired a long time a go ... hes like dlh some one who is good but cant hack it with all the new guys anymore.
      Last edited by msagrain; 11-03-2007, 10:34 AM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Technical_Skill
        Your virtually agreeing with me, belt and records dont always make a fighter, its the same for Kessler, one win against Libero Andrade doesnt and a paper WBC title from a past it Markus Beyer doesnt = a win over Roy Jones, even now.
        tell me how many kressler fights have you seen?

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        • Jim_Davis
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          #44
          It's like Calzaghe can never win. Before the Kessler fight everybody was saying Joe was ducking him. When he takes the fight everybody suddenly declares Kessler as someone thats beat down journeymen. Who can Joe fight after Kessler that people will finally give him some props for?

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            #45
            Originally posted by msagrain
            tell me how many kressler fights have you seen?
            Not many at all, yet ive seen enough to fancy roy jones against him by decison.

            Now, tell me which Kessler fight you saw, made you think he could handle roy Jones?

            cos RJJ still has a few moves left in him.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Naz-Fan
              It's like Calzaghe can never win. Before the Kessler fight everybody was saying Joe was ducking him. When he takes the fight everybody suddenly declares Kessler as someone thats beat down journeymen. Who can Joe fight after Kessler that people will finally give him some props for?
              he will properly batter Kelly Pavlik after this but of course when joe takes this fight pavlik will become a bum.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Naz-Fan
                It's like Calzaghe can never win. Before the Kessler fight everybody was saying Joe was ducking him. When he takes the fight everybody suddenly declares Kessler as someone thats beat down journeymen. Who can Joe fight after Kessler that people will finally give him some props for?
                1) Hopkins in America,which is a fight he can win

                2) Chad Dawson, people will say Dawson is green though.

                So Hopkins right now, and if jones looks nice in his next fight, then Jones also.

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                  #48
                  I wanna see Calzaghe take on Pavlik and Hopkins. Maybe I'd like to see a match-up with Jones but only if he can convincingly beat Trinidad.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                    Not many at all, yet ive seen enough to fancy roy jones against him by decison.

                    Now, tell me which Kessler fight you saw, made you think he could handle roy Jones?

                    cos RJJ still has a few moves left in him.
                    iv seen quite a few an he is very good a picking his shots. id also say he has as much power as rjj. nearly as much as a prime rjj but roys conditing is not as good as it used to b.e he not as power full and isnt as sharp as kressler. kressler beat s him on these things.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by msagrain
                      we all know rjj is just living of his name. seriouly if he wasnt rjj and just an normal fighter like he is now he wouldnt be getting all this tv time ect... he should of retired a long time a go ... hes like dlh some one who is good but cant hack it with all the new guys anymore.
                      The RJJ of today most would most def beat calzaghe and kessler.
                      hes still has ring generalship, and is the fastest (him and dawson) hands in the division SPM or LHW.
                      Why did calzaghe turn down that mega fight? because roy would beat dat ass..
                      u england ppl are so defensive about your fighters man. u have 2 good fighters in the world. relax..

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