JMM is overrated by Ring Magazine

[eazy_mas]

I like Pac, but seriously, after seeing the Barrera 2 fight, i reckon Marquez can hid behind a jab, circle away from the left lead, and jab manny to a decison, Barrera lost his discipline in that fight, the key with manny is not to get into war, cos chance are you will get hurt, Marquez is a better boxer, better strategist and a better fighter than Barrera right now, id really fancy his chances against manny, more so than i did a while back, Pac is just too much of the same thing, someone's gotta work him out soon

They are nearly the same but I give Barrera the edge over Marquez because he could take off the rythme of a fighter but Marquez going this counter combo thing going on

[kadyo's]

Hey Kadyo, are you really Filipino? Anyway here is a four-way test to determine if you were really a Filipino at heart or not. Here goes:

1. Who won between Pacquiao and JMM?

2. Was MAB and Morales OLD when Pacquiao beat them?

3. Is Pacquiao one-dimensional?

4. Who is your p4p king?

Please answer, and explain fully. Thanks.

1. Read back, I said irt was officially a DRAW and it happened many years ago.* wow that one rhymes lol *

2. Marco was a p4p fighter when pac massacred him and pac turned into a cautious fighter in the rematch for some reasons and pac rank high in the p4p because he's the ONLY man who KO'd eric not once but twice. If anyone thinks they're OLD it's their problem not mine or you want to make it your problem LOL.

3. Pac has the following dimensions straight left, right hook, bobbing and weaving, speed , power, quickness, lateral movement, ability to get out of the rope when being pinned and turned the tide against his opponent, heart of a champion, BUT most of all ability to speak perfect english haha!!!

4. W ho cares about my p4p king, you? douchebag! lolol!

[Chups]

LOL@the kadyo-joepal argument

I knew this would happen soon...when I saw joepal defending joartcc. To Joepal who's new, joartcc is the xcaret of the mexicans....lol. Kadyo has been here for a long time and has made many friends...he's not a Kapitan Tiago....LOL.

[xcaret]

JMM got the tools but I think he is abit overrated.

He is a good fighter but sometimes he doesnt use his head like in the Chris John fight he his mind was into the fight. He didt pressure Chris John into a brawl from the HL I seen and he was putting straight right to the body when Chris John was far away.

are you ****** ? Do you know the difference between a HL and watching the full fight? Obviously not, a HL can make any fighter look like he won... Theres plenty of those videos online...

For those who call Marquez "overrated' then your just discrediting Pacquiao big time because he couldn't finish a fighter he put down THREE TIMES..



Marquez overrated my ass; hes one of the most skilled boxers in the sport today...

[THe TRiNiTY]

Juan Manuel Marquez has had a very good career.

His only losses were in his PRO debut (which lets him into the same class as Bernard Hopkins), his fight with Freddie Norway (where he got outworked, and started slow.. no excuse, just the way it happened), and his CONTROVERSIAL loss to Chris John. By the way, his first loss to his second loss had 30 some WINS in between them. Then he had 15 plus wins in between the second and third. And again, the third loss was VERY CONTROVERSIAL.

joepal, you can't hold that loss, a loss that almost everyone disagrees with, then get upset when people talk about Manny getting KO'd, when it was clearly a lowblow. There's fair, and then theres' bull****. BOTH are bull****.

Also, I don't understand why Pacman fans are so upset with that one point difference in the tie with Pac and JMM. Manny dominated for ONE round and got three knockdowns, and still only managed to win by ONE point? If you get that outclassed, you don't deserve the win, morally/ethically, to begin with.

Furthermore, with three losses on his record, Marquez has never been stopped. Pacqauio has. Once was bull****, but you never hear him complain about the OTHER KO/TKO defeat. The both have the same ammount of losses, Marquez has never been beaten by KO though. Maruqez has more wins, and even with the extra two bouts, has the same ammount of KOs as Manny Pacqauio. Both got the draw with eachother.

If you don't count that BULL**** loss, then you have a very good winstreak on your hands with wins over Robbie Peden, Derrick Gainer, Jimrex Jaca (I mention it because it's recent, was exciting and he showed that he can slug.. because he could have EASILY outboxed that chump and got a much easier win), and Marco Antonio Barrera (the better fight out of Barrera's last two fights), he also put Pacman in school for the 11 rounds after the first. He's also fighting a YOUNGER Mexican fighter in Rocky Juarez.

By the way, it's not even all about wins/losses. It's about how you win, the skill level, endurance (in many ways). He also has p4p some of the best skills in boxing. Him and his brother are probably the BEST brother duo in boxing HISTORY. Not an overstatement.

I don't know who I'll pick in the rematch with him and Manny. But he deserves to be in the p4p. I don't see too many people who deserve to replace him, thinking about it with an unbiased mind.

[mrpain81]

Just to set the record straight, I was at the Pac Vs Marquez fight. And alot of the Pinoys thought Pac lost that fight, I also felt Marquez won that night, great great fight by the way.

Also Marquez loss to Norwood was also controversial, HBO had Marquez winning the Dec that time.

[Wiley Hyena]

The may be the best brother duo in history, but that does not mean they can beat Pacquiao. No...the show stops there.

[THe TRiNiTY]

The may be the best brother duo in history, but that does not mean they can beat Pacquiao. No...the show stops there.

Well.. Rafa is too small, and Marquez dominated him for 11 rounds. So, your proof on that issue, I find hard to see.

[joepal]

Well.. Rafa is too small, and Marquez dominated him for 11 rounds. So, your proof on that issue, I find hard to see.

OK, that's all I needed to know. About you I mean.

[THe TRiNiTY]

OK, that's all I needed to know. About you I mean.

So, you mean to tell me, that you think if that fight were only the 11, AFTER the first round, that Pacquaio still won? Please tell me that you do, so I can enjoy a good laugh.