The Greatest Super-Middleweights in History

[Jim Jeffries]

Because the one thing you never hear mentioned as a positive for Calzaghe is his power.

Calzaghe is one of those boxers who proves that power is a luxury and not a necessity to be a boxer. Winky Wright does the same thing.

Calzaghe had pretty good power in his prime before he started having problems with his hands and had to rely more on speed. You're not going to make a 35 year old Cal fight a prime Roy are you?

[Fox McCloud]

Calzaghe had pretty good power in his prime before he started having problems with his hands and had to rely more on speed. You're not going to make a 35 year old Cal fight a prime Roy are you?

Nope. I actually didn't know that he was once known for his power. I figured he was a guy like Winky, who had enough power to keep someone off of him, but couldn't ever really KO the big boys. I figured a lot of his KOs were against the substandard competition that prospects fight to build their records up.

[STEELHEAD]

roy dominated the SMW so bad that he was forced to go up to Lt Heavy.

please dont tell me that roy ducked Joe C that really shows ones lack of facts.

at SMW roy destroyed everyone he got into the ring with. especially a #1p4p at the time fighter who was undefeated........ a prime prime james toney.

both rjj and james toney would murder joe c.

that an undisputed fact!!

[Wiley Hyena]

Because the one thing you never hear mentioned as a positive for Calzaghe is his power.

Calzaghe is one of those boxers who proves that power is a luxury and not a necessity to be a boxer. Winky Wright does the same thing.

Ask Jeff Lacey if Calzaghe has "power." If you're saying that he is featherfisted then you just haven't seen Calzaghe in action.

[-Antonio-]

Calzaghe does have power, but it doesnt matter. It's not like Roy hasn't fought guys who can punch. He fought at Heavyweight for ****s sake.

[Fox McCloud]

Ask Jeff Lacey if Calzaghe has "power." If you're saying that he is featherfisted then you just haven't seen Calzaghe in action.

I didn't use the term feather-fisted. That is exclusively for Ottke and Malignaggi.

Ask Lacy if he got KOd after being hit flush almost 500 times. Calzaghe obviously can wear people down with a constant barrage, but power is not his greatest asset.

Seriously, if you thought of a guy at 168 in history who would be most likely to KO Roy, would Joe Calzaghe come to mind?

[Wiley Hyena]

I agree with you. Calzaghe fans are engaging in revisionist history. They claim that RJJ dodged Calzaghe? RJJ beat the best at 160, 168 and 175. Then, while he was allegedly dodging Calzaghe, he moved up to heavyweight and beat John Ruiz. Does this sound like a man who would dodge a featherfisted 168 pounder who, prior to the Lacy fight, couldn't draw 5,000 fans to his fights and was completely ignored by most boxing writers and websites? Calzaghe refuses to fight anyone unless they fight at 168 in Calzaghe's backyard. Is this the guy you think Roy Jones was scared of?

Calzaghe claims he is moving to 175 after the Kessler fight. However, what most of his fans don't realize or conveniently forget is that Calzaghe has been saying that for the last five years. A couple of years ago he had signed to fight Glen Johnson at 175 and came down with a phony hand injury. After Johnson moved on to knock out Roy Jones, Calzaghe's promoter wouldn't return phone calls from Johnson's people and Calzaghe conveniently decided to stay at 168. Then earlier this year, when Johnson tried to negotiate a fight with Calzaghe at a catch weight of 171, Calzaghe refused to fight him unless he came down to 168 and came to Wales to fight him.

Yet, this is the same guy who claims he is moving to 175 after the Kessler fight. Other than Jeff Lacey in Wales, Calzaghe has not beaten ANY opponent recognized as among the best in the world. Roy Jones beat Bernard Hopkins, James Toney, Antonio Tarver, John Ruiz and several quality guys at 175. Yet, you guys think Roy Jones was afraid of Calzaghe? As Mayweather's Manager, Leonard Ellerbe said a few days ago about Ricky Hatton, you guys have been drinking too much Guinness.

I can't wait to see Kessler KO Cazaghe so we can end the myth that Calzaghe has grown to become.

The Toney fight was in 1994. From that fight all the way to Tarver in 2003, Roy wasted his time fighting tomato cans. This is the truth. That is 9 years of tomato cans. 9 years. Why would Roy fight Calzaghe if he could make millions fighting tomato cans? Roy was magnificently talented, but does that constitute domination? Not only did he not fight Calzaghe, but he never gave Hopkins a rematch. And, I don't buy the "Calzaghe dodged Jones argument". I have seen no evidence of any serious inquiries by Jones to fight Calzaghe until 2006. By this time, Roy had been beaten around and was diminished.

[Wiley Hyena]

I didn't use the term feather-fisted. That is exclusively for Ottke and Malignaggi.

Ask Lacy if he got KOd after being hit flush almost 500 times. Calzaghe obviously can wear people down with a constant barrage, but power is not his greatest asset.

Seriously, if you thought of a guy at 168 in history who would be most likely to KO Roy, would Joe Calzaghe come to mind?

Yes, it probably would. IF anybody could have gotten inside and landed flush, it would have been Calzaghe. But, there are quite a few supermiddles that could KO Roy. Roy's chin is weak. Power is not the issue regarding Roy. The issue is just finding his chin.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Ask Jeff Lacey if Calzaghe has "power." If you're saying that he is featherfisted then you just haven't seen Calzaghe in action.

Calzaghe hit Lacy a million times. Could not finish him.

We all saw the fight.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Yes, it probably would. IF anybody could have gotten inside and landed flush, it would have been Calzaghe. But, there are quite a few supermiddles that could KO Roy. Roy's chin is weak. Power is not the issue regarding Roy. The issue is just finding his chin.

Roy would punish and dominate Calzaghe.