Whats Mayweather gonna do when Hatton hunts him down?

[Fox McCloud]

Dee,

that fight was at 130. Fight's at 147. That's a seventeen pound difference. Hatton is an animal compared to Chavez.

I know Mayweather's changed but one thing that hasn't changed is his temerpmant. He doesn't stand and brawl like he did at 130. He weighed in at 138 this fight. He was the bigger man.

I'm watching the fight now and i am noticing Chavez has a knee brace. What does this mean? Knee problems. He's lacking mobility on his front foot. Which explains why it is harder to cut off the ring. Chavez is nullifying this with the double jab but I think you get my drift.

And not to mention the ring the size of a track meet. Larry mentions this early in the second round.

But it was a good fight to compare. Both fighters are real herky jerky and hard to figure out.

I personally think Hatton's an animal compared to Chavez.

Yeah, using this fight as an exact blueprint for Hatton would be ******. The claim was made earlier in the thread that Mayweather has never fought a pressure fighter, or wouldn't know what to do against a pressure fighter, or something like that... that's the only reason I pulled this out.

Hatton is obviously much better than Chavez. No comparison.

I do think this is at least the level of action we will see from Floyd in this fight. He will be fighting a guy who isn't a giant compared to him for the first time in 3 fights, and Floyd can put some power on his punches, because they will ultimately effectively contribute to the end goal of getting a KO. Not to say that will eventually happen, I'm just saying that there is a chance to KO Hatton, as opposed to the lottery ticket chance of KO'ing Baldomir or Oscar.

Final note, Ricky has more power than Chavez too. Floyd said that Chavez doesn't hit hard at all. My only concern about Ricky's power is that Floyd took shots from 154 Oscar... I don't know if a great body puncher who fights at 140 can throw harder to the body than a mediocre body puncher at 154.

Strength can make up for skill, but I just don't know what the threshold for that is.

[Azteca]

Yeah, using this fight as an exact blueprint for Hatton would be ******. The claim was made earlier in the thread that Mayweather has never fought a pressure fighter, or wouldn't know what to do against a pressure fighter, or something like that... that's the only reason I pulled this out.

Hatton is obviously much better than Chavez. No comparison.

I do think this is at least the level of action we will see from Floyd in this fight. He will be fighting a guy who isn't a giant compared to him for the first time in 3 fights, and Floyd can put some power on his punches, because they will ultimately effectively contribute to the end goal of getting a KO. Not to say that will eventually happen, I'm just saying that there is a chance to KO Hatton, as opposed to the lottery ticket chance of KO'ing Baldomir or Oscar.

Final note, Ricky has more power than Chavez too. Floyd said that Chavez doesn't hit hard at all. My only concern about Ricky's power is that Floyd took shots from 154 Oscar... I don't know if a great body puncher who fights at 140 can throw harder to the body than a mediocre body puncher at 154.

Strength can make up for skill, but I just don't know what the threshold for that is.

I personally dont think Floyd is ready to get in a dog fight. Never really seen him in one. He is all about making money. He is always mentioning money in every single interview. He craves this. Is this guy willing to go out on his shield and knock this guy out and dig shots in the trenches? Not to sure..it's still willing to be seen. I would be suprised if he DID NOT coast and try to win a decision. Very suprised.

But then again, if Ricky is outgunned early...i think Floyd will do his best to try and stop him.

Anyway I am almost done the fight. Floyd is starting to take over right around Round 4. Finding his range and is trying to establish a rythym. Chavez is tiring out from blowing his load the first few rounds.

[Fox McCloud]

I personally dont think Floyd is ready to get in a dog fight. Never really seen him in one. He is all about making money. He is always mentioning money in every single interview. He craves this. Is this guy willing to go out on his shield and knock this guy out and dig shots in the trenches? Not to sure..it's still willing to be seen. I would be suprised if he DID NOT coast and try to win a decision. Very suprised.

But then again, if Ricky is outgunned early...i think Floyd will do his best to try and stop him.

Anyway I am almost done the fight. Floyd is starting to take over right around Round 4. Finding his range and is trying to establish a rythym. Chavez is tiring out from blowing his load the first few rounds.

Yeah... in all honesty, the prediction Dios gave about the Hatton fight is pretty much how this fight goes. I doubt this fight was the sole basis for that though.

You are about to get some respect for Floyd's inside game though.

[Azteca]

Yeah... in all honesty, the prediction Dios gave about the Hatton fight is pretty much how this fight goes. I doubt this fight was the sole basis for that though.

You are about to get some respect for Floyd's inside game though.

look man he can fight flawlessly inside for spurts. But on a whole...no I dont believe he is that talented inside.

[Fox McCloud]

look man he can fight flawlessly inside for spurts. But on a whole...no I dont believe he is that talented inside.

Well no, he's not an inside first fighter, but he can be damn effective on the inside if his dance partner stands shoulder to shoulder.

He is effective on the inside because he picks his shots very well... those uppercuts were lethal to Chavez.

By the way, I'm curious about a couple of things.

1. Did you find it hilarious when Jim Lampley mocked Harold Lederman about his scorecard for round 1?

AND

2. Did you think this fight was as close as Lederman had it? I didn't actually think it was nearly as close as Harold had it... mostly because Chavez missed a lot and Mayweather countered a lot.

[Azteca]

Well no, he's not an inside first fighter, but he can be damn effective on the inside if his dance partner stands shoulder to shoulder.

He is effective on the inside because he picks his shots very well... those uppercuts were lethal to Chavez.

By the way, I'm curious about a couple of things.

1. Did you find it hilarious when Jim Lampley mocked Harold Lederman about his scorecard for round 1?

AND

2. Did you think this fight was as close as Lederman had it? I didn't actually think it was nearly as close as Harold had it... mostly because Chavez missed a lot and Mayweather countered a lot.

I'll be honest. I didn't think the fight was as close as I perceived earlier like a couple years ago.

I had Chavez winning 4 rounds up until the stoppage. He won 3 of them clearly. Like I said Floyd was finding his range and you could just see it that Chavez was going to get stopped. He blew his load the first couple rounds.

EDIT - Yeah I did have a chuckle when lampley mocked him.

two things stuck out at me though:
1) Ring size
2) Chavez' mobility. I noticed a slight limp.

[Fox McCloud]

I'll be honest. I didn't think the fight was as close as I perceived earlier like a couple years ago.

I had Chavez winning 4 rounds up until the stoppage. He won 3 of them clearly. Like I said Floyd was finding his range and you could just see it that Chavez was going to get stopped. He blew his load the first couple rounds.

EDIT - Yeah I did have a chuckle when lampley mocked him.

two things stuck out at me though:
1) Ring size
2) Chavez' mobility. I noticed a slight limp.

Both are well taken... The differences in those categories will likely play a hell of a difference in the fight.

1. How big is the ring size for December 8th, does anyone know?
2. I haven't really seen Hatton rush forward as fast as Chavez did in that fight, but then again, I have extremely limited experience with Hatton's fights, so... has he ever shown this kind of eagerness to get to his opponent like Chavez did?

[Azteca]

Both are well taken... The differences in those categories will likely play a hell of a difference in the fight.

1. How big is the ring size for December 8th, does anyone know?
2. I haven't really seen Hatton rush forward as fast as Chavez did in that fight, but then again, I have extremely limited experience with Hatton's fights, so... has he ever shown this kind of eagerness to get to his opponent like Chavez did?

1. I would really like to know the ring size. I just took a look at the Tszyu - Hatton bout....very small ring. If it's a smaller ring...it's obviously going to help Hatton more.

2. Chavez was rushing in real fast the first couple rounds. He died down becauase he wasn't educated with it. He was throwing looping shots, wasn't switching sides to attack. He was cutting off the ring but I feel he didn't have the tools to catch up to mayweather.

I feel hatton does. He showed two different kinds of pressure to get to his opponents in tszyu and castillo.

Against tszyu he clubbed his shots and brawled and wrestled with tszyu.

Against castillo he feinted and used his left hook primarily. hatton was wrestling once castillo tried to get intight and land uppercuts.