Pavlik-Taylor 2

[Fox McCloud]

your last sentence is the reason why everyone think Kelly will KO him again.

'He retreated to the ropes and corner when Winky was backing him up ..smaller guy. AND Ouma was even backing Jermain up. Kelly will always back him up and possibly KO him, becuase of thier styles. Jemrain needs to learn how to spin his opponents and get around them or AWAY from the ropes. Chad Dawson does this well.......

Right, I mean it's fine that people are voting that Taylor gets KO'd again, but my god, on other topics...

Pavlik vs. Allan Green:
55 Pavlik by KO
1 Pavlik by UD (me)
0 Draw
2 Green by KO
1 Green by UD

Whatever, I don't care if Pavlik is a big favorite, but 55 people think that Pavlik will KO him, and none think it goes the distance?

Everyone told me that Pavlik KO's Winky Wright... none said it would go to decision.

It's just obnoxious that everyone thinks that Pavlik could break Vitali Klitschko's chin (can't say Wladimir, because it's probably true ).

Pavlik = very good, but only has 1 huge win (Miranda was a prospect who doesn't know what defense means, even in Spanish).

People are acting like he is the Tiger Federer or Roger Woods of boxing.

[C'MONMANG']

Right, I mean it's fine that people are voting that Taylor gets KO'd again, but my god, on other topics...

Pavlik vs. Allan Green:
55 Pavlik by KO
1 Pavlik by UD (me)
0 Draw
2 Green by KO
1 Green by UD

Whatever, I don't care if Pavlik is a big favorite, but 55 people think that Pavlik will KO him, and none think it goes the distance?

Everyone told me that Pavlik KO's Winky Wright... none said it would go to decision.

It's just obnoxious that everyone thinks that Pavlik could break Vitali Klitschko's chin (can't say Wladimir, because it's probably true ).

Pavlik = very good, but only has 1 huge win (Miranda was a prospect who doesn't know what defense means, even in Spanish).

People are acting like he is the Tiger Federer or Roger Woods of boxing.

Allen Green was beatin by Miranda right? Pavil ko'd Miranda in like 6-7 rounds. why is it just hype when choosing Pavlik to beat Green?


Winky gets hit a lot on his gloves, a lot actually get through.. Winky has been knocked down like 3 times in a fight before. Why couldn't a huge middle weight who is KOing everybody knock him out?

[Fox McCloud]

Allen Green was beatin by Miranda right? Pavil ko'd Miranda in like 6-7 rounds. why is it just hype when choosing Pavlik to beat Green?


Winky gets hit a lot on his gloves, a lot actually get through.. Winky has been knocked down like 3 times in a fight before. Why couldn't a huge middle weight who is KOing everybody knock him out?

Triangle theories don't work, first of all... Green had an absurdly bad strategy for Miranda.

Winky got knocked down 5 times in the fight you are referring to, against Julio Cesar Vasquez... and it was before he changed his style to his defensive matrix, which he developed right after the Vargas fight.

Also, Winky has never been hurt to my knowledge, or at least he has never shown it.

[C'MONMANG']

Triangle theories don't work, first of all... Green had an absurdly bad strategy for Miranda.

Winky got knocked down 5 times in the fight you are referring to, against Julio Cesar Vasquez... and it was before he changed his style to his defensive matrix, which he developed right after the Vargas fight.

Also, Winky has never been hurt to my knowledge, or at least he has never shown it.

you didnt answer my questions.

[revs1227]

yeah yeah yeahhh all u ****s are still rooting 4 taylor..lol ..him gettin koed didnt tell u ne thing
pavlik k.o 9

[Fox McCloud]

you didnt answer my questions.

Okay... let me actually draw an arrow between your question to me answers.

Miranda beats Green + Pavlik beats Miranda = Pavlik beats Green.

Okay, that was the triangle theories don't work thing. Let me show you an example of another triangle theory that didn't work, at all.

Mosley wins twice over De La Hoya
Forrest wins twice over Mosley
Mayorga wins twice over Forrest

Mayorga should absolutely kill De La Hoya... 6 fights prove that under the triangle theory... instead, it was one of the biggest outclassings of all time by De La Hoya when he battered Mayorga for 6 and then knocked him out.

Okay... you said that Winky gets hit a ton in his defensive stance, and was knocked down multiple times in the Julio Cesar Vasquez fight.

I said that Winky wasn't using his current style back then. He developed that as a way to come forward, so he could be more popular, and hopefully get the nod from the judges in more close rounds after he lost a controversial decision to Vargas.

I also said that I have never seen Winky Wright hurt, in any fight. Tremendous defense + tremendous chin is usually not a guy who is predicted to be KO'd, which is why I am curious why everyone thinks this will be easy work for Pavlik if he fights Wright.

Did I answer your questions a little better?

[C'MONMANG']

Okay... let me actually draw an arrow between your question to me answers.

Miranda beats Green + Pavlik beats Miranda = Pavlik beats Green.

Okay, that was the triangle theories don't work thing. Let me show you an example of another triangle theory that didn't work, at all.

Mosley wins twice over De La Hoya
Forrest wins twice over Mosley
Mayorga wins twice over Forrest

Mayorga should absolutely kill De La Hoya... 6 fights prove that under the triangle theory... instead, it was one of the biggest outclassings of all time by De La Hoya when he battered Mayorga for 6 and then knocked him out.

Okay... you said that Winky gets hit a ton in his defensive stance, and was knocked down multiple times in the Julio Cesar Vasquez fight.

I said that Winky wasn't using his current style back then. He developed that as a way to come forward, so he could be more popular, and hopefully get the nod from the judges in more close rounds after he lost a controversial decision to Vargas.

I also said that I have never seen Winky Wright hurt, in any fight. Tremendous defense + tremendous chin is usually not a guy who is predicted to be KO'd, which is why I am curious why everyone thinks this will be easy work for Pavlik if he fights Wright.

Did I answer your questions a little better?

no you rambled. Why is it HYPE if someone iS predicting Kellly to KO GREEN and Winky and TAylor in a rematch when he already Ko'd Taylor and Winky is a career JM and Green is FRIGGIN aLLEN green. why is it HYPE?

[Fox McCloud]

no you rambled. Why is it HYPE if someone iS predicting Kellly to KO GREEN and Winky and TAylor in a rematch when he already Ko'd Taylor and Winky is a career JM and Green is FRIGGIN aLLEN green. why is it HYPE?

No one said hype other than you.

Green's prediction is not 100% solid because triangle theories don't work.

You were wrong about your reasoning of why Winky goes down, explained above, around the words Vargas and Vasquez.

My main criticism is not that people are picking Pavlik to win, but no one thinks that anyone can stand up to him for 12 rounds... no one can even ****ing survive him is the general consensus, which is just irritating, because it's just probably not the case that no one can survive to a decision loss with Pavlik.

[WLAD OWNS]

They could fight 1000 times, and Pavlik would win by KO 1000 times.

I 100% agree, Taylor is Pavlik's ***** and he is getting KO'd again.

PAVLIK KO 5

[ElGranLuchador]

Who wins the rematch? I think Taylor will win it. Usually the loser has the advantage in a rematch because they know well what they are expecting. Still wouldn't rule Pavlik out though. The same thing could happen in the rematch as the first one.

the loser has the advantage? its common knowledge that in rematches the guy that won the first usually wins