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when calzaghe was made mandatory for the wbo collins ducked him ( vacated the title and retired immediatly) so eubank stepped in! collins stated that in an interview a few years ago that joe would have beaten them all, as has beenn and eubank! as for roy jones i know benn and eubank got offered big paydays but i doubt collins would turn down that match as he is stubborn as hell so i assume he never got offered!
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[QUOTE=Orange Sneakers;2782844]Collins wasn't very good, but he was rather effective with lunges and **** technique etc, strangely effective.
I respect him, he took Benn's best left hooks and didn't blink an eyelid (!!), that's what I respect him for most, that and going 12 with McCallum despite having broken ribs in the fifth.
Eubank was clearly not himself in those Collins fights (Eubank won the first fight cleanly though, IMO), and Kalambay made him look silly. But he was world-class, Collins.
Jones doesn't really have a problem, and Calzaghe would have to fight on the outside with speed or Collins may beat him physically up-close with smarts.
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Collins wasn't very good, but he was rather effective with lunges and **** technique etc, strangely effective
Collins was a good counter puncher watch the 1st Eubank fight again i think youll find Eubank was the one who had bad technique and lunges his technique has always been awful
Eubank lost the 1st Collins fight IMO by at the very least 1 round ,Benn was shot after the McClellan fight Eubank was'nt that shot he had a lot of fights in a short space of time which may have effected his performance on the night but he stil gave a good account of himself ,Collins just had the blueprint to beat him ,and once the blue print became public knowledge Thompson & Calzaghe used that formula to expose Eubank
Eubank could not work at a pace just like Jermain Taylor he liked to control the pace of a fight and the aforementioned never allowed him to do that ,why do you think Collins charged Eubank in the 2nd fight he knew if he kept the pressure on Eubank he would tire cause Chris never trained properly in any case and he kept Eubank on the balls of his feet where he could'nt generate his power he would outwork him and be safe from the right hand ,Eubank said himself he was looking for the right hand all night but it never came
Eubank could have caught Collins with a big right but his technique was so bad when he got crowded he became Disorganised an open
If u watch the Calzaghe fight Eubank comes foward throwing 3/4 straight punchers Calzaghe just takes a step back and hits with the right hook and makes him look like a right chump, great fighter but his technique was terrible and that is what let him down in the end that and neglecting to do the necessary road workComment
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That era of boxing produced some of the greatest from 160-175 we may ever see. If they all weren't so stubborn most if not all of those fights could have been made. RJJ would have been in his prime at the time and would have, IMO, come out on top and their would be no debate about the mans resume.Comment
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It's got nothing to do with him being Irish, I'm just aware that the representation you're giving of collins is inaccurate to the truth imo,
And yes, I take any opportunity I can get to piss over the irish boxing scene at the moment. It's ridiculous, but that has nothing to do with why Collins was so popular - as evidenced by people all over the world supporting his career.
It sounds like you've a deep level of hate for the man. Maybe he turned away when you tried to get an autograph or something.
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ignore him starjammer Collins was a good fighterIt's got nothing to do with him being Irish, I'm just aware that the representation you're giving of collins is inaccurate to the truth imo,
And yes, I take any opportunity I can get to piss over the irish boxing scene at the moment. It's ridiculous, but that has nothing to do with why Collins was so popular - as evidenced by people all over the world supporting his career.
It sounds like you've a deep level of hate for the man. Maybe he turned away when you tried to get an autograph or something.
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i dont think Watson would beat Roy Jones JR but i think Benn would give Michael Nunn head aches with his low aggresive style i don think Watson would beat Nunn though
i think Benn would have got schooled good stylee by James Toney though he was tailor made for Toney IMO ,Toney was a great fighter at Middleweight & Super Middleweight would we have witnessed another Barkley display if he fought Benn it would proabably be a lot more competitive but i think Toney would adapt to Benn's style to easilyComment
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