Rocky marciano over or underrated

[Mr. Violence]

Watch the first Walcot fight closely. After he was knocked down at the start of the fight, he was punching back, not just following Walcot like alot of people think, and landing to the body, almost punch for punch, as Walcot started to retreat, and continued to do so while Walcot tried to back up and box him. After being nearly blind through the middle rounds, close to the end of the fight, he's still forcing Walcot back, not just chasing him, but still staying close enough to land, almost punch for punchwith Walcot retreating, trying to box him. It's not as most people think, that Walcot battered him for 12 rounds and then he lands a lucky punch, watch the fight again, he was by no means being outclassed or outboxed, he was still in the fight big time, and wouldn't have been beaten up like he was if he had been able to see clearly through the middle of the fight. I can't see Ali easily outboxing him, he might win, but not easily. Walcot moved pretty well, and couldn't move quickly enough to stay out of the rock's punching range, I just don't see it being that easy, and Louis wouldn't run to save his ass against Schmeling, so to me it's a toss up, whoever gets caught with the big one first. The man wasn't that slow, he fought considerably smaller and faster fighters than we have now, no one takes that into account.

i think ali would have beaten him in the same way that he beat joe frazier. ali wouldnt have beaten rocky easily, he would have beaten him by decision or by tko on cuts. ali vs. rocky would be alomost an exact carbon copy of his fights with frazier. think about it, frazier and rocky's styles were almost identical with both being able to withstand lots of punishment. so yeah ali could have beaten him but it wouldnt have been easy. i think rocky is niether over rated or under rated. his place in history is just right. most of the top 10 ratings i've seen have him right in the middle of the top 10, which is where I have him at #4.

[buff_mike10]

Rock was the most underrated boxer in history. If he would have lost the title twice and won it back like Ali would that make him better? I think its better to keep the title the whole way. Ali liked to run his mouth, but in the end Marciano would show him what pain is. If Weptner could knock Ali off his feet with a body shot, what do you think guys like Marciano and Tyson would do to him? I mean Larry Holmes beat Ali for crying out loud. Ali's a top 10 boxer no doubt, but overrated is an understatment.

[gunton]

From the footage i've seen of marciano, there is no doubt that he had a tremendous talent. For the type of fighter he was, a slugger, he was....in his time, the best in the business. I still think he would have been hard up against it to beat a true boxer like ali or frazier.

[Tha Greatest]

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Ali said that when he sparred marciano that marcianos body punches just pure hurt

I think Ali can outbox him

Marciano was good but he was just a slugger Ali can beat him

if he fights tha way he did against liston n tha punches he took from foreman

i'd have to give it to Ali by decision or late stoppage


What would u guys think if a prime Joe Louis fought a prime Marciano, i'd have to give it to Joe Louis

[Tha Greatest]

Rock was the most underrated boxer in history. If he would have lost the title twice and won it back like Ali would that make him better? I think its better to keep the title the whole way. Ali liked to run his mouth, but in the end Marciano would show him what pain is. If Weptner could knock Ali off his feet with a body shot, what do you think guys like Marciano and Tyson would do to him? I mean Larry Holmes beat Ali for crying out loud. Ali's a top 10 boxer no doubt, but overrated is an understatment.

Larry Holmes a young fighter beat a OLD Ali who was not even close to what he was when he was younger

[zoo]

Well he was the best fighter of his era, he fought the best that was put in front of him and beat them all, he didn't duck anybody. What more can you ask for? He would have kept fighting if a real challenger had emerged, but the only other guy out there was Floyd Patterson, and Cus D'Amato wouldn't let that fight happen because he knew Floyd would get handled. So Rocky just retired and decided to live in peace.

I ranked Rocky very high.

[hollister]

I think Ali already had Parkinson's symptoms when he fought Holmes, that was sad, he didn't even fight back. They should have stopped that fight a long time before they did, instead of letting him get beat up like that.

[hollister]

i think ali would have beaten him in the same way that he beat joe frazier. ali wouldnt have beaten rocky easily, he would have beaten him by decision or by tko on cuts. ali vs. rocky would be alomost an exact carbon copy of his fights with frazier. think about it, frazier and rocky's styles were almost identical with both being able to withstand lots of punishment. so yeah ali could have beaten him but it wouldnt have been easy. i think rocky is niether over rated or under rated. his place in history is just right. most of the top 10 ratings i've seen have him right in the middle of the top 10, which is where I have him at #4.

Yeah, they are pretty close, the only real difference is that Frazier would come into any fight at least 15 lbs. heavier, and Marciano actually ran in, or kind of scampered, where Frazier kind of bobbed and weaved as he was shuffling, other than that, I guess they do have almost the same style.

[bpapa420]

Alot of people underrate rockys defense. He actually did bob and weave often just at a slower pace. He had a shot of taking ali out late based on the fact that rocky NEVER ran out of gas in the later rounds.

[hollister]

Alot of people underrate rockys defense. He actually did bob and weave often just at a slower pace. He had a shot of taking ali out late based on the fact that rocky NEVER ran out of gas in the later rounds.

That's true, his conditioning was unbelievable, and the fact that he knocked Walcott out in the 13th, with both eyes damn near shut is a testament to his heart and will to win, giving up just wasn't an option for him.