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  • feed-the-goat
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    #41
    Originally posted by Chicago
    For about half the fight, Collazo was timing him perfectly when Hatton tried to wrestle his way on the inside and Had Hatton dancing like a fool in the last round. Floyd is a way better fighter than Collazo and way smarter too. If Collazo caught Hatton coming in on the inside for about half the fight, imagine how many times Floyd is going to catch him.
    I would agree with that, but Hatton won that fight, no one had collazo winning, it was not like castillio Floyd. But Hatton put collazo on his arse with a nice dig, it was his first time at ww against a guy who is really a junior middleweight and an awkward southpaw who ricky has trouble with.
    Floyd is not that big, Floyd doesnt have much power and hes not a southpaw. Plus Ricky is a bigger, faster stronger and technically better version of Castillio.
    Collazo is the one man who gave Ricky trouble in 43 fights, everyone has an off night and Ricky still won that

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      #42
      Originally posted by Black Jesus
      i dont think you understand how much getting punched accurately in the face ****ing hurts, and its the reason nobody is ever successfull pressing that guy.
      floyd can't punch as hard as Tszu and hatton ate everything tszu could give, how many other fighters could have done that

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      • satori555
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        #43
        um collazo won the fight when you mean no one had him winning you meant no one british small typo on your part

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        • feed-the-goat
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          #44
          Originally posted by satori555
          um collazo won the fight when you mean no one had him winning you meant no one british small typo on your part
          any sensible and rational boxing person would have had Hatton winning that fight

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          • El Jesus
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            #45
            Originally posted by feed-the-goat
            floyd can't punch as hard as Tszu and hatton ate everything tszu could give, how many other fighters could have done that

            if youre going to just use power as your argument as to why hatton is going to win, then fine, but there is a reason guys back off of pbf after a few rounds, why would DLH just stand there in the later rounds and look at floyd in the center of the ring, why would baldomir look so discouraged after round 2 against floyd? those guys are bigger punchers than hatton, bigger individuals than hatton and have proven chins, yet failed to even engage him as their fights drew on, there were times when DLH just looked at floyd doing ****ing nothing for all that ineffective aggression he was giving.

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            • Chicago
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              #46
              Originally posted by feed-the-goat
              I would agree with that, but Hatton won that fight, no one had collazo winning, it was not like castillio Floyd. But Hatton put collazo on his arse with a nice dig, it was his first time at ww against a guy who is really a junior middleweight and an awkward southpaw who ricky has trouble with.
              Floyd is not that big, Floyd doesnt have much power and hes not a southpaw. Plus Ricky is a bigger, faster stronger and technically better version of Castillio.
              Collazo is the one man who gave Ricky trouble in 43 fights, everyone has an off night and Ricky still won that

              You make valid points, but PBF is the p4p best on the planet right now. If Hatton keeps holding on the inside like he does in all his fights, he will be warned by the referee and dq'd if he continues to do it. That will for Hatton to try to outbox PBF and get on the inside of him without holding. Hatton's speed, power, and stamina won't be as effective as they were at JW.

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              • LondonRingRules
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                #47
                Originally posted by RodBarker
                That is the point because they wasnt the same weight , Floyd gave Baldy 10 lbs and Oscar 14 , bit hard to expect him to stop them as they both have rock solid beards I would back both baldy and Oscar to beat Hatton , they are to big and Hatton is right in front , Floyd stopped Shamba and would have stopped Judah in the last 2 rounds if it werent for the mayhem with 6 minutes to go ,, I believe he will really make a statement in this fight and Hattons style is made for Floyd to shine ,, Boxing is a speed sport to beat Floyd you have to hit him first .
                ** Floyd is the paper favorite, but has proven to be very hittable by Chavez, Castillo, Judah, and Oscar. If boxing was just a speed sport, speedsters would always prevail. They don't, thus you have your Foremans, Pavliks, Titos, old man Hopkins, Glen Johnsons, Ponce DeLeons, ect.

                You might be right about Judah. He was starting to fade until Floyd's corner started the ring riot. Floyd goes to the corner to take a breather, and Judah can be seen in the middle of the fight, protecting his team. After fighting in the riot he comes back and dominates the last rounds to end the fight against a freshened Floyd.

                Hatton to make it a dogfight and Floyd ain't got no pitbull in him. We'll see what Floyd's greyhound credentials are. Have to wonder who Roy is putting his money on.

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                • Wiley Hyena
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by RodBarker
                  Not in the mood for your crap today Wiley , all that matters in this would off could off world of yours is that you realize that Hatton today is a better fighter than the one that beat your hero , you do relize that dont you ? direct question ?

                  You will see my logic on Dec 8 make sure you drop by here and we can have a chat .
                  You're talking to me about "would of could of" and just above you so arrogantly presumed that if not for the "mayhem" Floyd would have stopped Judah. Talk about would of could of. The fact is that Floyd won a UD against Judah. And, we're talking about a Judah that's been KOd or TKOd by almost every elite fighter he's faced since getting KOd by Tszyu in the 2nd round way back when.

                  The fact is you are wrong when you said so profoundly that boxing is a "speed sport." Big overstatement, and slightly on the ignorant side. Was Judah faster than Baldomir? Just leave the boxing theory to the guys who know boxing.

                  But, you are right about December 8. We may be talking. But, I doubt if its what you might be anticipating. But, hey, the oddsmakers will be with you. So you're picking the favorite. Big deal.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #49
                    I hope Hatton does take into consideration PBFs speed. If hatton notices something different about PBF compared to his other opponents it would prbably be PBFs speed and skill. So Hatton should take that into consideration when he is loading up on body shots with that body armour his coach uses.

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                    • Wiley Hyena
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by LondonRingRules
                      ** Floyd is the paper favorite, but has proven to be very hittable by Chavez, Castillo, Judah, and Oscar. If boxing was just a speed sport, speedsters would always prevail. They don't, thus you have your Foremans, Pavliks, Titos, old man Hopkins, Glen Johnsons, Ponce DeLeons, ect.

                      You might be right about Judah. He was starting to fade until Floyd's corner started the ring riot. Floyd goes to the corner to take a breather, and Judah can be seen in the middle of the fight, protecting his team. After fighting in the riot he comes back and dominates the last rounds to end the fight against a freshened Floyd.

                      Hatton to make it a dogfight and Floyd ain't got no pitbull in him. We'll see what Floyd's greyhound credentials are. Have to wonder who Roy is putting his money on.
                      Great post. See this "Rodbarker"? This is someone who knows boxing. If you have your doubts go see the scholars on the "boxing history" forum and learn something.

                      I'm sorry but your series of posts lately, especially when your stalking me, are irritatingly ignorant. So you're getting some payback tonight because I'm a little cranky today.

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