Which fighter has the best Offensive Arsenal ?

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  • big paulie
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    #21
    Originally posted by squealpiggy
    Right now it's Pacquiao I would say. Pound for pound he has the most devastating and speedy offensive skillset. I don't know how anyone could even mention Mayweather for this category. I mean he can punch and he has a full set of punches, but his lack of offensive drive is his biggest weakness as a fighter.
    vasquez is a better offensive fighter than pacquiao because he has better technique, there is more method to his attacks and puts combinations together better

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      #22
      Originally posted by big paulie
      vasquez is a better offensive fighter than pacquiao because he has better technique, there is more method to his attacks and puts combinations together better
      I won't argue with you, Vasquez certainly has better technique and he's one of my favourite fighters, but I don't think he brings in quite the intensity of Manny. Techniques isn't everything when it comes to a successful offense, and for intensity, power and sheer effectiveness I think Manny wins. Manny's reason for his high p4p ranking is his offense just as much as Floyd's high ranking is a result of his defense.

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        #23
        Tough question. I'll throw out four names. The Marquez brothers, Wlad, and Floyd.

        Wlad's jab has so much snap and power behind it, and he hooks off the jab so easily. He doesnt use the right hand enough though, and he hasnt quite added the uppercut to his arsenal. He throws it every now and then, but not as much. And he doesnt go to the body much either. I guess that's not his fault because of he's so tall. But either way his 1, 2 and, 3 are quick and powerful.

        Nobody goes to the body like Floyd does. Cotto might be more consistant, Hatton and Mosley might be more devastating, but nobody is as versatile. He jabs to the body, throws straights to the body, throws left and right hooks to the body. He also has a sneaky quick lead left hook that he alternates between his jab that really screws with his opponents. Not to mention his best punch, the straight right hand, which he eventually finds at will in every fight.

        Not much to say about the Marquez brothers other than the fact that they throw every single punch with perfect technique, good power, and good speed. They do everything offensively the way its supposed to be done.

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          #24
          Floyd has an above average offense (is there anything about him that is below average? Well, his dancing ability, but you can't have it all) but what keeps him from being anything close to a contender for "most devastating offense" is his "safety first" ring philosophy. It's effective, it wins him fights, but it also precludes him from "best offense" categories.

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            #25
            Originally posted by squealpiggy
            I won't argue with you, Vasquez certainly has better technique and he's one of my favourite fighters, but I don't think he brings in quite the intensity of Manny. Techniques isn't everything when it comes to a successful offense, and for intensity, power and sheer effectiveness I think Manny wins. Manny's reason for his high p4p ranking is his offense just as much as Floyd's high ranking is a result of his defense.
            pacs offence could be better if he'd sort his leverage out and sit down on his shots a bit more, he flaps around too much!

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              #26
              Originally posted by big paulie
              pacs offence could be better if he'd sort his leverage out and sit down on his shots a bit more, he flaps around too much!
              It's possible but perhaps doing so will interfere with his intensity and volume. Offense isn't just about one-punch power.

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                #27
                Originally posted by squealpiggy
                It's possible but perhaps doing so will interfere with his intensity and volume. Offense isn't just about one-punch power.
                That is why Kelly Pavlik should not be winning this pole. He knocks his opponent out and is probably the best finisher in this sport. However, when it comes to technique, diversity, and the ability to mix things up and the ability to overwhelm you with their offense, I would give it to Pacman.

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                  #28
                  From THAT list I picked Wlad Klitschko.. Who is an awesome mix of Power and accuracy...

                  But seriously It has to be Floyd Mayweather... WHO is more accurate?? seriously... There isn't a Better over all Puncher in Boxing today..

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                    From THAT list I picked Wlad Klitschko.. Who is an awesome mix of Power and accuracy...

                    But seriously It has to be Floyd Mayweather... WHO is more accurate?? seriously... There isn't a Better over all Puncher in Boxing today..
                    He loses clout because of his lack to go for the kill. If you use "finishing fights" as one of the criteria I would understand why he wouldn't be winning the poll. I would agree with his accuracy though, his landing percentage is the best in the sport.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by squealpiggy
                      I won't argue with you, Vasquez certainly has better technique and he's one of my favourite fighters, but I don't think he brings in quite the intensity of Manny. Techniques isn't everything when it comes to a successful offense, and for intensity, power and sheer effectiveness I think Manny wins. Manny's reason for his high p4p ranking is his offense just as much as Floyd's high ranking is a result of his defense.
                      Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                      From THAT list I picked Wlad Klitschko.. Who is an awesome mix of Power and accuracy...

                      But seriously It has to be Floyd Mayweather... WHO is more accurate?? seriously... There isn't a Better over all Puncher in Boxing today..
                      thats outrageous, floyd of late has just looked for single but accurate shots he simply lacks the power at ww and even lw to dispatch his opponents the way he used to, the last time pbf really let his shots go was v gatti and it still took him several rounds of sustained pumelling to stop gatti, hardly what i'd call 'finishing'

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