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  • PRboxingfan
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    #11
    Every fighter has stay-busy fights on his record. EVERY ONE. You just cannot fight top guys every single fight, it's almost impossible.

    Also, you must remember that when a fighter moves up in weight and doesn't go straight for a championship, he must work his way up through ranked fighters to get to the mandatory position.

    a good example of this is how Floyd moved to 140 and fought Chop-Chop in an elimination bout to become Gatti's mandatory. Then Gatti had signed to fight Jesse James Leija before his mantatory was due and Floyd took a stay-busy fight against someone who had little chance of beating him (Bruseles). Everyone criticizes Floyd for fighting Bruseles but, the truth of the matter is that he was a stay-busy fight to keep Mayweather on the right track to fight Gatti, who was picked because of his star power.

    Mayweather's handlers KNEW that a fight with Gatti would put Floyd on a totally different level; one where they could headline PPV cards. It was the smart thing to do because, as Floyd said, "If it makes dollars, it makes sense."

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    • Fox McCloud
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      #12
      No one on Mayweather's resume is as bad as Hector Velazquez, who Pacquiao fought before Morales II, and people are actually talking about him deserving to be #1 because of his resume.

      Every fighter does indeed take tune-up fights.

      Except for Jermain Taylor, who did something unique to this day and age in boxing after he won the title.

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      • *2TOUGH*
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        #13
        Originally posted by Technical_Skill
        So then if gatti is a paper chump, why did hatton try to get fights with him and Baldomir?

        Put is this way, who are the better champions.

        Corrales, Castillo, Baldomir, Gatti De La Hoya and Hernandez

        Or Tzysu, Mausa and Collazo?

        Then you can name me the fighters active at the moment with a better resume than mayweather, because i dont think there are that many.
        this thread aint about HATTON its about MAYWEATHER..

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          #14
          Tito's resume was more impressive than Floyds.

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          • hugh grant
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            #15
            Floyds resume is good, but he has nearly been beaten many a few times. He beat zab judah and zab is good. Zab judah and DLH are good. Castillo was supposed to be good but look at what Hatton did. So maybe PBF have got holes in the armour. We will see in 5 weeks time.

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            • Wiley Hyena
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              #16
              Originally posted by PRboxingfan
              Every fighter has stay-busy fights on his record. EVERY ONE. You just cannot fight top guys every single fight, it's almost impossible.

              Also, you must remember that when a fighter moves up in weight and doesn't go straight for a championship, he must work his way up through ranked fighters to get to the mandatory position.

              a good example of this is how Floyd moved to 140 and fought Chop-Chop in an elimination bout to become Gatti's mandatory. Then Gatti had signed to fight Jesse James Leija before his mantatory was due and Floyd took a stay-busy fight against someone who had little chance of beating him (Bruseles). Everyone criticizes Floyd for fighting Bruseles but, the truth of the matter is that he was a stay-busy fight to keep Mayweather on the right track to fight Gatti, who was picked because of his star power.

              Mayweather's handlers KNEW that a fight with Gatti would put Floyd on a totally different level; one where they could headline PPV cards. It was the smart thing to do because, as Floyd said, "If it makes dollars, it makes sense."
              Floyd fought Corley, Bruseles, and Gatti instead of going after the legitimate champ of 140 (Tszyu). Before Corley, it was Sosa and N'dou at 135.

              5 Bums in a row. How can anybody seriously maintain that Floyd's resume is any better than Hatton's? After Castillo II, it's all ****. I will give Floyd credit for beating the name "De La Hoya", but De La Hoya the man was diminished by the time he met Floyd, and it was still a split decision.

              With Hatton, there is a reasonable probability that Floyd has finally picked the wrong cherry. That's why this bout is so anticipated.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                Floyd fought Corley, Bruseles, and Gatti instead of going after the legitimate champ of 140 (Tszyu). Before Corley, it was Sosa and N'dou at 135.

                5 Bums in a row. How can anybody seriously maintain that Floyd's resume is any better than Hatton's? After Castillo II, it's all ****. I will give Floyd credit for beating the name "De La Hoya", but De La Hoya the man was diminished by the time he met Floyd, and it was still a split decision.

                With Hatton, there is a reasonable probability that Floyd has finally picked the wrong cherry. That's why this bout is so anticipated.
                Dude... be fair.

                Gatti - A washed up champion, but still a champion. Bad style matchup made Gatti look worse than he was, which still wasn't great, by any means.

                Corley - Former WBO world champion. A pretty able fighter, who was able to hang with Mayweather Jr., Judah and Cotto. Definately not a bum.

                Sosa - Prospect fighter who came close to beating undefeated Paul Spadafora.

                N'dou - Prospect who was 31-1 with 30 KOs.

                The last 2 were prospects who didn't pan out, and it is damn hard to predict who will end up being great when they are still green.

                Bruseles - Bum. Word.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DWiens421
                  Dude... be fair.

                  Gatti - A washed up champion, but still a champion. Bad style matchup made Gatti look worse than he was, which still wasn't great, by any means.

                  Corley - Former WBO world champion. A pretty able fighter, who was able to hang with Mayweather Jr., Judah and Cotto. Definately not a bum.

                  Sosa - Prospect fighter who came close to beating undefeated Paul Spadafora.

                  N'dou - Prospect who was 31-1 with 30 KOs.

                  The last 2 were prospects who didn't pan out, and it is damn hard to predict who will end up being great when they are still green.

                  Bruseles - Bum. Word.
                  I'll be fair, and Floyd is entitled to a "stay busy" fight. But, 5 in a row? Too much, too little, too late. Floyd is fairly and justly criticised on this issue.
                  He's got a chance now to reverse some of the damage. Let's see if he can make the most of it.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    I'll be fair, and Floyd is entitled to a "stay busy" fight. But, 5 in a row? Too much, too little, too late. Floyd is fairly and justly criticised on this issue.
                    He's got a chance now to reverse some of the damage. Let's see if he can make the most of it.
                    Fighting prospects is not taking fights off.

                    They are not top level, but no one bitched at Margarito for fighting Williams.

                    The only difference is that Williams won and Sosa and N'dou lost.

                    Corley is not as bad as people make him out to be either, he put Cotto on his ass.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                      I'll be fair, and Floyd is entitled to a "stay busy" fight. But, 5 in a row? Too much, too little, too late. Floyd is fairly and justly criticised on this issue.
                      He's got a chance now to reverse some of the damage. Let's see if he can make the most of it.

                      Do you think I couldn't find five fighters in a row that had no business being in the ring with Hatton? I can.. I really can.

                      Aldo Rios..
                      Then he fought Ben Tackie, I'll give him that.. but he didn't really IMPRESS in that one either..
                      Then he fought a replacement in Dennis Pederson..
                      Carlos Vilches..
                      Michael Steward.. And then finally..
                      Ray Oliveira..

                      Is that really any better?

                      Stats..

                      AT THE TIME OF FIGHTING EITHER GUY:
                      Mayweathers Opponents:
                      Corley, Bruseles, Gatti, Sosa, N'Dou..
                      TOTAL RECORD: 154-13-5

                      Hattons Opponents:
                      Rios, Tackie, Pederson, Vilches, Steward, Oliveira..
                      TOTAL RECORD: 227-23-6

                      In all honesty, the Total record of both is at best, average. Neither really looks better, because the record with the most wins, also DAMN NEAR doubles the record the lost, with losses. Also keep in mind that none of those fights were for any true world title, when it comes to Hatton, only the AMAZING WBU title. Whereas, Mayweather went for a title with ATLEAST a world appeal, when fighting both Gatti, and N'Dou..

                      So, basically, it's a batch of fights, for both, that wasn't that great. Everyone has it. I also gave Hatton Ben Tackie, even though I excluded Castillo.

                      Now, if you want to include Kostya Tszyu, you must include Castillo, in either fight.

                      Furthermore, lets talk about AFTER these dry runs..

                      Mayweather: Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir(THE TRUE CHAMPION), De La Hoya..
                      Hatton: Maussa, Collazo, Urango, Castillo..

                      In the grand scheme of things. If you're an upcoming fighter, chances are, you'd rather have Mayweathers resume. I realize the thread was started for another reason, but this is where it has gone.

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