Mayweather Is Boxing’s Only Crossover Star

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  • Easy-E
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    #21
    Originally posted by Kball15
    I dont think any of this is true at all. You have to look at the sport of boxing as a WORLD WIDE THING.

    Cotto (Puerto Rico), Freitas(??? i forget), Pacquiao (phillapines), Pavlik (ohio), Calzaghe (wales), Bute (Canada), Hatton (UK), Are ALL mainstream sports idols in their native countires/states.

    You should see the NEWS in the UK!!!! Its on youtube btw. Every week there is something on Hatton. Hatton meeting the queen, Hatton getting this reward, hatton meeting Bheckam, Hatton meeting mayweather. etc etc etc.

    In this STATES, this is true, but i dont think its true outside the states
    I am assuming thats what the article was referring too.

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    • joepal
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      #22
      Originally posted by Easy-E
      I am assuming thats what the article was referring too.
      I got relatives in the States and the only Mayweather guy they know is the guy who mows their lawns!

      Seriously, Floyd is far from celebrity status even in his own hometown.

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        #23
        Originally posted by joepal
        I got relatives in the States and the only Mayweather guy they know is the guy who mows their lawns!

        Seriously, Floyd is far from celebrity status even in his own hometown.
        No, I live in the states, and I know for a fact that Floyd is a well known name by anyone who considers themselves a fan of sports.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Easy-E
          No, I live in the states, and I know for a fact that Floyd is a well known name by anyone who considers themselves a fan of sports.
          Somebody's nose is getting longer here.

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          • The Troll
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            #25
            point the cameras at your garden variety mollusk or higher and you'll have least as big a 'star'.

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            • The Troll
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              #26
              I'd prefer the mollusk by the way. At least it's inoffensive. And has some dignity in it's own small way.
              Last edited by The Troll; 10-18-2007, 06:32 AM.

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              • squealpiggy
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                #27
                You know I'm not sure that "Dancing with the Stars" has caused Floyd's "star" to rise very much. I'm gauging his popularity not by mentions on DWTS, but on mentions by Entertainment Tonight. Floyd barely got a mention, and even when he was dumped off the show it didn't make the gossip news. So far he hasn't even touched on the mainstream. Conversely Oscar De La Hoya's recent ****** controversy did make Entertainment Tonight, so it's a bust that De La Hoya is still the only crossover star in North America.

                In fact Floyd wouldn't even rank as a mainstream sports personality in the US because of the way that boxing has been downgraded. It's off the front pages. It isn't mentioned in Sports Illustrated. Oh in the boxing world he's near the top, but in sports in general he's not even on the radar, trumped (unjustifiably) by NASCAR drivers and second string baseball pitchers...

                On the other hand Hatton in the UK is being groomed as a "personality" but he isn't there yet, so I would say he's on a par with Floyd right now. The big difference is that Boxing is still a front page sport in the UK. If you look on the BBC sports pages you will see a link to boxing. If you look on ESPN the link is hidden on page 2 under "Other Sports".

                The only true active crossover star in boxing at the moment is Manny Pacqiuao, and that is beyond question. Pac is literally huge in the Phillipines, everyone knows him, he is universally loved in a manner that Mayweather can only dream of.

                This isn't knocking Floyd in any way though. Hatton is never going to gain the level of popularity of Pacquiao either. Pacquiao is in the unique position of representing the hopes and dreams of all philipino people, whereas in fat America (and fat Britain) the hopes and dreams of the majority tend not to include taking punches to the head.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Kball15
                  I dont think any of this is true at all. You have to look at the sport of boxing as a WORLD WIDE THING.

                  Cotto (Puerto Rico), Freitas(??? i forget), Pacquiao (phillapines), Pavlik (ohio), Calzaghe (wales), Bute (Canada), Hatton (UK), Are ALL mainstream sports idols in their native countires/states.

                  You should see the NEWS in the UK!!!! Its on youtube btw. Every week there is something on Hatton. Hatton meeting the queen, Hatton getting this reward, hatton meeting Bheckam, Hatton meeting mayweather. etc etc etc.

                  In this STATES, this is true, but i dont think its true outside the states
                  Am I the only one that found this hilarious. He names countries around the world and than names one state, ohio.

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                  • Bomber_UK
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by squealpiggy
                    You know I'm not sure that "Dancing with the Stars" has caused Floyd's "star" to rise very much. I'm gauging his popularity not by mentions on DWTS, but on mentions by Entertainment Tonight. Floyd barely got a mention, and even when he was dumped off the show it didn't make the gossip news. So far he hasn't even touched on the mainstream. Conversely Oscar De La Hoya's recent ****** controversy did make Entertainment Tonight, so it's a bust that De La Hoya is still the only crossover star in North America.

                    In fact Floyd wouldn't even rank as a mainstream sports personality in the US because of the way that boxing has been downgraded. It's off the front pages. It isn't mentioned in Sports Illustrated. Oh in the boxing world he's near the top, but in sports in general he's not even on the radar, trumped (unjustifiably) by NASCAR drivers and second string baseball pitchers...

                    On the other hand Hatton in the UK is being groomed as a "personality" but he isn't there yet, so I would say he's on a par with Floyd right now. The big difference is that Boxing is still a front page sport in the UK. If you look on the BBC sports pages you will see a link to boxing. If you look on ESPN the link is hidden on page 2 under "Other Sports".

                    The only true active crossover star in boxing at the moment is Manny Pacqiuao, and that is beyond question. Pac is literally huge in the Phillipines, everyone knows him, he is universally loved in a manner that Mayweather can only dream of.

                    This isn't knocking Floyd in any way though. Hatton is never going to gain the level of popularity of Pacquiao either. Pacquiao is in the unique position of representing the hopes and dreams of all philipino people, whereas in fat America (and fat Britain) the hopes and dreams of the majority tend not to include taking punches to the head.
                    By far the most sensible post on the topic so far. Although I would be expecting Dios here any minute to smack your arse ( verbally of course ) with his intellect and stats because you are saying Floyd isn't the be all and end all like he is in Dios's house.

                    Graet analysis and spot on mate

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                    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by joepal
                      Pac literally makes the headlines. Pac graces talk-shows a hundred times per week. Pac influences a whole nation whom to vote. Pac this, Pac that.

                      Floyd who?
                      A fourth (8th?) -world country that people only know because of

                      a) marines stationed in WestPac getting $5 ****s in Olongapo City
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                      b) people who remember Imelda Marcos spending the country's treasury on shoes.

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