floyd still hasnt stepped his competrion all the way.. he need to fight mosley cotto winner paul williams... guys that arent scared to fight and get hit.. oscar never liked getting hit .. cotto shane and mosely are real fighters .. they like to fight
Floyd is CLEARLY a great fighter. But he isnt the greatest. But he is the best fighter out there today. But the fact that he cant make himslef fight an exciting fight will hurt his legacy. Nobody will be telling their grandkids about the time FLoyd beat up Gatti in a fight that EVERYONE knew was a mismatch. Or when Floyd pot shot and ran from a old ODLH to win a SD. Floyd is obviously a greater fighter, but nobody is gonna care about him after he is gone. Nobody will miss watching him potshot his way to boring 12 round UDs. It will always be "He never took any chances on who he fought or how he fought them." and "Who was great that he ever beat who was in there prime?" Had he fought people like Oscar when he was in his prime, Kostya, Cotto, Williams, Mosley ect. in there PRIMES and beat them impressivly then he would be worth remembering, but that ship has sailed. All he's doing now is collecting a check in safe fights and little else.
Weird, if I remember correctly, Duran didn't even have a monumental amount of accomplishment after he left 135. He was still great, but not the best at any of those divisions. He always lost his biggest fights after 135.
Regardless, accomplishments don't mean much in head-to-head fantasy matchups.
You dont remember. Because you dont know names, and you dont know what he did that made him so special. I know you are inexperienced on the sport, but dont debate if you aren't qualified to answer.
Duran's best work was done below 147, with the SRL win as a notable exception.
Can PBF go to 160/168 and beat some bum or fringe contender? Sure he can. His sparring partners are 160/168. But what would it mean? Not a damn thing.
I'm embarrassed for Teka right now. He is nuzzling Duran's taint for work at 160/168.
You aren't very familiar with the sport. I guess that comes with the territory being the resident Mayweather ball licker.
And, yeah, no he couldn't beat up a fringe contender at 160/168. But let's say he COULD. Would he win the way Duran did against Barkley? What about against Moore?
Here's some FACTS for the Mayweather ball lickers:
*He held the lightweight title for six years and seven months, defending the title 12 times and winning them all, eleven by kayo. The title reign is generally viewed as the greatest reign in the history of the lightweight division. This alone puts his accomplishments at lightweight with those of other traditional weight classes: Louis at heavyweight, Archie Moore at light heavyweight, Monzon and Hopkins at middleweight, Pedroza at featherweight.
*He held titles in four different weight classes: the lightweight, welterweight, junior middleweight, and middleweight. Three of which are traditional weight classes. This puts him in the class of Leonard, Hearns, Armstrong, and Fitzsimmons. Duran never made an effort to win the junior welterweight title although there’s little doubt he would have won the title. Keep in mind if he did try it, it would have been sometime between 1976 and 1978 where the junior welter champs were Velasquez, Muangsurin, Cervantes, and Kim), and the competition from which he won the traditional titles is sublime. Ken Buchanan is now a Hall of Fame fighter, Ray Leonard is an all-time great and guaranteed soon to be Hall of Famer, and Iran Barkley a triple crown champion. Also, had Duran gotten a break earlier in his career, there’s a very strong chance he would have been able to pick up a junior lightweight world title as well.
*Outside of George Foreman, no other fighter has had a longer span of time between title winning performances. However, unlike Foreman who regained the heavyweight title in a mediocre display of boxing, Duran won the Middleweight title almost 17 years after winning the Lightweight title in a formidable boxing match.
*Duran fought from 118 to 175 pounds, bantamweight through to light heavyweight. Was a pro fighter from 1967 to 2001, a span of 34 years.
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