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The Prime Years of Ricky Hatton
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Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View PostActually, ARUM was the one who told Floyd that Cotto wasn't ready yet. They had the same promoter. So Floyd parroted that. You can easily find the Arum quotes.
Floyd ducked Cotto. Not debatable.
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Let me go on the record:
If Floyd wins, he gets no credit from me. I will just say that Floyd was who I thought he was, and Ricky was who I thought HE was.
If Ricky beats Floyd, then I am wrong, and Floyd is not as good as I think. I would have overrated him.
ON. THE. RECORD.
Lazcano - Pulled out injured so Hatton fought Collazo
Gatti - schedule to fight Hatton but got beat by Baldomir
Tszyu - Hatton beat Tszyu while Tszyu was by all accounts at the top of his game. Tszyu mecame "spent" after he had lost, not before.
Corrales - At lightweight until last year
Castillo - At lightweight until last year
Tszyu - You mentioned Tszyu twice, which is odd.
Malignaggi - Still fighting 8 rounders in 2005, famous to date for getting beat by Cotto
N'Dou - Once slated as an opponent, fight fell through
Judah - Would have been an acceptable fight
Cotto - No way was Arum putting Cotto in with Hatton at 140
Corley - An OK fight but not exactly stellar opposition
Witter - Perpetually two levels below in terms of career stage and a gob****e to boot
Mayweather (scheduled for Dec 8th, 2007)
Harris - Got starched by Maussa otherwise could have been an opponent for Hatton after Tszyu
Forbes - Ricky's sparring partner?
Mitchell - Decent option
I have been following Hatton's career for many years and have seen deal after deal to fight top ten rated fighters fall through (due in no small part to Frank Warren's insistence on having everything his way). Fights with Mitchell and Harris have been signed and fallen apart until Hatton got Tszyu, which frankly scared the crap out of me. I didn't think he was ready for a fight of that magnitude, I thought that experience against a lesser fighter would have been wiser, say Harris or Mitchell, before he took on the number one. I was proven wrong, and Hatton demolished Tszyu in a brilliant performance and a brilliant fight. Before Tszyu the only top ten rated opponent Hattonf aced was Ben Tackie who was ninth. Before Hatton took on Tszyu he was rated 7th by the Ring.
Stating that Hatton has been boxing for ten years and therefore has had a ten year window in which to make massive fights is obfuscation. Hatton won the Lonsdale belt in 2000 and he wasn't on the radar as a world class fighter for another two years after that. When he eventually got his shot in 2005 he took it with both hands, and beat Tszyu. And in the short two years since that fight he has won the WBA at 140 and 147, rewon the IBF at 140 and got himself a fight with the p4p number one fighter in the world.
In short since leaving the clutches of his promoter his star has risen.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
Lazcano - Pulled out injured so Hatton fought Collazo
Gatti - schedule to fight Hatton but got beat by Baldomir
Tszyu - Hatton beat Tszyu while Tszyu was by all accounts at the top of his game. Tszyu mecame "spent" after he had lost, not before.
Corrales - At lightweight until last year
Castillo - At lightweight until last year
Tszyu - You mentioned Tszyu twice, which is odd.
Malignaggi - Still fighting 8 rounders in 2005, famous to date for getting beat by Cotto
N'Dou - Once slated as an opponent, fight fell through
Judah - Would have been an acceptable fight
Cotto - No way was Arum putting Cotto in with Hatton at 140
Corley - An OK fight but not exactly stellar opposition
Witter - Perpetually two levels below in terms of career stage and a gob****e to boot
Mayweather (scheduled for Dec 8th, 2007)
Harris - Got starched by Maussa otherwise could have been an opponent for Hatton after Tszyu
Forbes - Ricky's sparring partner?
Mitchell - Decent option
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So these little one-off excuses are a bit comical. Sorry.
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Tszyu - Hatton beat Tszyu while Tszyu was by all accounts at the top of his game. Tszyu mecame "spent" after he had lost, not before.
KT was 36 , came off 3 rnds in over 2 yrs , had shoulder surgery and injurys for prior 18 mths ,, was talkng of retirement prior ,,, I saw him spar 3 weeks earlier and he looked not good ,,,,, KT at the time Rick fought him was faded and at the end of his career .
Bottom line , you cannot compare Rickys resume with Floyds , its not even close in the quality of fighters and where they were in thier career timeframe at the time they fought .
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostHang on, if Ricky beats Floyd this is all blowing smoke. You would be forced to concede that Floyd's resume is garbage, because you have been using Hatton's to vilify him since before the fight was announced. Hatton would deserve credit for beating Floyd or Floyd is a hyped fighter. Pick one. Do it now.
Lazcano - Pulled out injured so Hatton fought Collazo
Gatti - schedule to fight Hatton but got beat by Baldomir
Tszyu - Hatton beat Tszyu while Tszyu was by all accounts at the top of his game. Tszyu mecame "spent" after he had lost, not before.
Corrales - At lightweight until last year
Castillo - At lightweight until last year
Tszyu - You mentioned Tszyu twice, which is odd.
Malignaggi - Still fighting 8 rounders in 2005, famous to date for getting beat by Cotto
N'Dou - Once slated as an opponent, fight fell through
Judah - Would have been an acceptable fight
Cotto - No way was Arum putting Cotto in with Hatton at 140
Corley - An OK fight but not exactly stellar opposition
Witter - Perpetually two levels below in terms of career stage and a gob****e to boot
Mayweather (scheduled for Dec 8th, 2007)
Harris - Got starched by Maussa otherwise could have been an opponent for Hatton after Tszyu
Forbes - Ricky's sparring partner?
Mitchell - Decent option
I have been following Hatton's career for many years and have seen deal after deal to fight top ten rated fighters fall through (due in no small part to Frank Warren's insistence on having everything his way). Fights with Mitchell and Harris have been signed and fallen apart until Hatton got Tszyu, which frankly scared the crap out of me. I didn't think he was ready for a fight of that magnitude, I thought that experience against a lesser fighter would have been wiser, say Harris or Mitchell, before he took on the number one. I was proven wrong, and Hatton demolished Tszyu in a brilliant performance and a brilliant fight. Before Tszyu the only top ten rated opponent Hattonf aced was Ben Tackie who was ninth. Before Hatton took on Tszyu he was rated 7th by the Ring.
Stating that Hatton has been boxing for ten years and therefore has had a ten year window in which to make massive fights is obfuscation. Hatton won the Lonsdale belt in 2000 and he wasn't on the radar as a world class fighter for another two years after that. When he eventually got his shot in 2005 he took it with both hands, and beat Tszyu. And in the short two years since that fight he has won the WBA at 140 and 147, rewon the IBF at 140 and got himself a fight with the p4p number one fighter in the world.
In short since leaving the clutches of his promoter his star has risen.
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Originally posted by RodBarker View PostBull**** !
KT was 36 , came off 3 rnds in over 2 yrs , had shoulder surgery and injurys for prior 18 mths ,, was talkng of retirement prior ,,, I saw him spar 3 weeks earlier and he looked not good ,,,,, KT at the time Rick fought him was faded and at the end of his career .
Bottom line , you cannot compare Rickys resume with Floyds , its not even close in the quality of fighters and where they were in thier career timeframe at the time they fought .
Ricky Hatton is an absolute killer. Dontcha know? Kostya Tszyu was at his absolute peak. And Ricky so dismantled a prime Zoo that Kostya could never fight again.
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Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View PostNo, Rod.
Ricky Hatton is an absolute killer. Dontcha know? Kostya Tszyu was at his absolute peak. And Ricky so dismantled a prime Zoo that Kostya could never fight again.
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