If Juan ends up beating PAC, it's because he's bigger not better

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  • We want Floyd
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    #71
    Originally posted by El Dominicano
    **** that 106 crap. He is now a certified 130 Pounder look at the guy. Who in the 130 division is bigger then Pac?? If any not many. If Juan wins its simply because he is a better fighter PERIOD
    Umm, we're talking about PAC jumping to 135lbs. But yes, it appears that PAC is now a bonafide 130lber. however, he hasn't fought any of the top caliber natural 130lbers in Soto, the last time he fought a natural 130lber was against the guy that beat his brother prior to Soto, and back then he looked smaller than that fighter.

    It looks likes whoever PAC fights next is gonna be a natural 130lber, only then will we truly see how he sizes up against a natural 130lber. be it guzman, valero, or soto. hell even a journeyman will do. i'm just really curious.

    y'all remember when he fought erika the first time. the size difference was quite noticeable. but yes, pac has beefed up. but again, the discussion is not at 130lbs. its 135lbs.

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      #72
      Now that i think about it. i should've phrased the thread title to "if juan beats pac, he beat a great lil guy.


      i've already said that pac would appear to be fighting an uphill battle if he were to fight twan, since he's moving up another weightclass.

      i've already expressed my opinion on a potential PAC - twan matchup. But, all you twan groupies still avoid the question. how would twan do, if he were the one to move up to lets say 140 - 147lbs. to face the likes of Hatton, Cotto, P. Williams, hell even floyd. c'mon twan fans, don't be afraid of the question(lmao)

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        #73
        Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
        Now that i think about it. i should've phrased the thread title to "if juan beats pac, he beat a great lil guy.


        i've already said that pac would appear to be fighting an uphill battle if he were to fight twan, since he's moving up another weightclass.

        i've already expressed my opinion on a potential PAC - twan matchup. But, all you twan groupies still avoid the question. how would twan do, if he were the one to move up to lets say 140 - 147lbs. to face the likes of Hatton, Cotto, P. Williams, hell even floyd. c'mon twan fans, don't be afraid of the question(lmao)
        Williams weighs over 160lbs on fight night, compared to Juan's 141-142. Hatton and Cotto are both in the mid 150s as well on fight night. so you really dont have much of a point, do you, since the guys at Welter would outweigh him by more than 12lbs on the night of the fight.

        the real point is that there is no difference in size between them, since Pacquiao weighs more than Juan on fight night, even when he has to go out of his way to lose 5 more lbs than Juan. If anything, Pacquiao is bigger than Juan...
        If Pacquiao rehydrates in 1 day 14 pounds, imagine how much more he weighs when he doesnt have to lose weight at all...

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          #74
          Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
          Now that i think about it. i should've phrased the thread title to "if juan beats pac, he beat a great lil guy.


          i've already said that pac would appear to be fighting an uphill battle if he were to fight twan, since he's moving up another weightclass.

          i've already expressed my opinion on a potential PAC - twan matchup. But, all you twan groupies still avoid the question. how would twan do, if he were the one to move up to lets say 140 - 147lbs. to face the likes of Hatton, Cotto, P. Williams, hell even floyd. c'mon twan fans, don't be afraid of the question(lmao)
          Diaz will beat Pac. End of story. Why are we even discussing this inevitablility?

          Pac should stick to singing and running for mayor or hall monitor or whatever they call it in that backward country.

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            #75
            ****, now he has to fight a natural middleweight in Sergio.

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              #76
              Originally posted by blackirish137
              Williams weighs over 160lbs on fight night, compared to Juan's 141-142. Hatton and Cotto are both in the mid 150s as well on fight night. so you really dont have much of a point, do you, since the guys at Welter would outweigh him by more than 12lbs on the night of the fight.

              the real point is that there is no difference in size between them, since Pacquiao weighs more than Juan on fight night, even when he has to go out of his way to lose 5 more lbs than Juan. If anything, Pacquiao is bigger than Juan...
              If Pacquiao rehydrates in 1 day 14 pounds, imagine how much more he weighs when he doesnt have to lose weight at all...
              Originally posted by blackirish137
              this makes absolutely no sense. Pacquiao is completely ripped and in-shape and comes in to fight at 144lbs, while pudgy Juan comes in at 141ish without having to barely dehydrate at all.
              Im positive Pacquiao walks around at a way higher weight than Diaz.

              now, if Pacquiao is in his prime, then that means his best weight is around 144 pounds. if Diaz weighs less naturally and doesnt even have to cut his extra baggage weight, how the hell does he have a size difference?

              I dont care if Manny started at 105. he was a teenager at that weight, and horribly dehydrated even then.

              and wake up, Diaz has always been chubby. Pacquiao's and Diaz's frames are more or less the same.
              I was right even 4 years ago.

              I am a genius.

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                #77
                wow have tides turned

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                  #78
                  Funny eh, looking back Manny moving up to SFW and now here's whupping guys 17 pounds or more heavier. Incredible.

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