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Originally posted by Allucard View PostPavlik over Cotto for damn sure. The others i don't know sorry. MAnny isnt that powerful
This **** ain't even up for debate really, PAC is simply P4P The strongest puncher today. His resume speaks for itself. MAB's feedback, EM's feedback of how strong a puncher PAC is, is worth more than any of our opinions, don't ya think?
Rafa's biggest fight came against Israel Vasquez - I like Israel, but he was simply getting manhandled by PAC at Wildcard. Don't even use the weight issue. Because PAC was the smaller man against MAB the first time. PAC was the smaller man against JMM. PAC was the smaller man against EM in their first two fights. Not only that, I personally saw PAC sparring with Vasquez and you can hardly tell the size difference!
PDL, PAVLIK, WLAD, RAFAEL, COTTO, CINTRON, Whoever else y'all wanna put up. Can any of the above reference fighters matchup the type of chins PAC's fists have faced in recent years?
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No way Pac is the hardest p4p puncher.... He packs a good punch; but he is not a 1 punch knockout guy.
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Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI View PostAsk EM, JMM, and MAB how powerful he is. If that doesn't shut y'all the f**k up. then y'all are hopeless.
This **** ain't even up for debate really, PAC is simply P4P The strongest puncher today. His resume speaks for itself. MAB's feedback, EM's feedback of how strong a puncher PAC is, is worth more than any of our opinions, don't ya think?
Rafa's biggest fight came against Israel Vasquez - I like Israel, but he was simply getting manhandled by PAC at Wildcard. Don't even use the weight issue. Because PAC was the smaller man against MAB the first time. PAC was the smaller man against JMM. PAC was the smaller man against EM in their first two fights. Not only that, I personally saw PAC sparring with Vasquez and you can hardly tell the size difference!
PDL, PAVLIK, WLAD, RAFAEL, COTTO, CINTRON, Whoever else y'all wanna put up. Can any of the above reference fighters matchup the type of chins PAC's fists have faced in recent years?
Bro, your so blinded, please go back to Pacland, it's disgusting, really.
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Kofi Jantuah is the hardest puncher in boxing P4P.
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Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI View PostThis is where you are an id*ot.
You use the example of PAC unable to take out Larios - Are you aware that the longer the fight went for PAC, the more $$$ he made from the numerous brands he endorses in his native country? There was definitely a huge incentive for PAC to stretch the fight .
Let me ask you. If a company(in PAC's case companies) came and offered you that for each complete round you finish, they'll add $1,000 on top of the money you are already suppose to make . Here's a little simple math for you....
If you complete a full three rounds, you get $3,000
If you complete a full six rounds, you get $6,000
If you complete a full twelve rounds, you get $12,000
I don't know how old you are, but here's an analogy - if you work for a company, they actually give out CASH bonuses on certain holidays. PAC simply got a bonus from the big corporate bigwigs in his country for everytime he completed a round!
Are you gonna tell me that you're gonna turn down a $500 cash bonus from your boss, because you wanted to go home early so you can play video games?(lol)
So what if MAB was tko'd by Junior Jones. How many years ago was that prior to him facing PAC. MAB was never ko'd or even suffered a knockdown after PAC annihilated him. MAB's motivation in the rematch wasn't to win, he simply wanted to survive and take the easy way out.
JMM's kd from the hands of Norwood was more of a flash knockdown. i don't even count that kinda knockdown.
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Originally posted by mbandit View PostOh give me a ****ing break man.All I always hear from you guys are excuses.So what if Jones t.koed Barrera well I was simply correcting your claim that Barrera had never been k.oed.That whole Pac/Larios excuse is bull****.
Why do you think these guys fight? To live the high life, to provide for their families, to set themselves up for life after boxing(DLH would know something about this, Mayweather would know something about this, etc..). How is the whole PAC -Larios reason B.S. Do you know the extra amount of $$$ PAC received from his corporate sponsors just to stretch the fight. Are you kidding me?
Just in case you didn't know. PAC's fight with Larios worked like the Super Bowl. all the major brands in his country were vying for a t.v spot in between rounds. Imagine how much more all the brands got exposure for the fact that it went 12 rounds instead of 1, 2, or 3.
Ya get the picture here, it's all about $$$$ and not much else. PAC makes money by entertaining w/ his fists, corporations want to get in on PAC's popularity and they'll ride him for as long as his fists allow him.
If I came to you and said. I'll give you $1,000 if you complete a round but if you complete 12 full rounds, you'll be earning $12,000 . Which one would you aim for?
I never said MAB never got ko'd or tko'd prior to facing PAC. But it was a long time between the Jones and PAC fight. After PAC destroyed MAB, he went on a winning streak, he hit a little bump in the road by grinding it out w/ Juarez,but he avenged that in dominating fashion, but the rematch w/ PAC, he knew what he was up against, MAB knew he couldn't dance around PAC the way he did against Juarez. There's something in PAC that's giving your legends problems..........HIS POWER. Because before him and after him most of your legends have never been down. It all revolves around PAC
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Originally posted by ELPacman View PostBro, your so blinded, please go back to Pacland, it's disgusting, really.
Lets review this again........
PDL - He has only faced one guy who has an A-class chin and that's Gerry Penalosa, a 35 year old, undersized fighter. And he couldn't put a dent on him. In fact it was PDL who ran the last 4 rounds. Is this a fact?
Pavlik - He has faced who? Jermain Taylor's chin isn't exactly on MAB's, EM's, and JMM's level. That's Pavlik's biggest name to date!
Cotto - He faced who? Zab "Mr. Chicken Dance" Judah. Hell, Cotto had to resort to dirty tactics just to simmer down ZAB(lol) Do any of Cotto's opponents chins pale in comparison to MAB, EM, and JMM?
Vlad - LOL
Rafa - He may not have the resume that PAC has, but I think Rafa in comparison to PAC is definitely legit with his k.o. power! But again, Rafa's fists have not met w/ EM, MAB type chin! I don't know, maybe we should ask his brother, Juan, he would know how hard his bro hits and he obviously knows how hard PAC hits.
So, again I ask you. Do any of these guys above, faced the same caliber chins PAC's fists have faced?
Who else y'all got? Listen man, I'm not saying these guys don't hit harder than PAC, but the type of chins these guys have faced does not compare to what PAC has faced? Until then, I'd have to pick PAC!
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