Ibragimov 219, Holyfield 211.5!

[Dick-Sucker]

Holyfield looks in awesome shape. Hes clean and trains hard. I have been to his trainings, he gives 180 percent thats why he looks the way he does. Also has good weight training methods. Ibragimov looks in terrible shape. Holly is going to win this easy.

[Vladimir303]

Holyfield looks in awesome shape. Hes clean and trains hard. I have been to his trainings, he gives 180 percent thats why he looks the way he does. Also has good weight training methods. Ibragimov looks in terrible shape. Holly is going to win this easy.

I was just about to say what a knowledgable boxing fan you are untill that last sentence.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

steriods..............how ******ed, i think most of you are jealous that your bodies dont look like that, Holyfields body has always looked like that and steriods make you alot toned up and ripped. holyfield usually just has an extra 8 pounds in his stomach area and back. Now he doesnt, i dont believe he takes steriods, i think he may of back in the day but at age 44, steriods would already be kicking his butt in terms of back injuries and everything else, Some of you need to do your research.

Why do guys who don't know what they are talking about chime in?

WTF, tyson?

NUMBER ONE:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070921-9999-1s21hgh.html

The headlines this year certainly agree. The Signature Pharmacy scandal – the investigation of a Florida company by a district attorney in Albany, N.Y. – has implicated several big-name athletes since a February raid of its Orlando headquarters. Among them: baseball's Rick Ankiel, Gary Matthews Jr. and Carlsbad High alum Troy Glaus; former Chargers safety Rodney Harrison; boxing's Evander Holyfield; and a dozen pro wrestlers, including the late Chris Benoit.

They ordered a variety of banned substances from Signature with prescriptions from different doctors, often without being examined or undergoing medical tests. But if there was a common denominator, it was this: They almost always got growth hormone



NUMBER TWO:

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-1holyfield00807&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

His name was linked on Feb. 28 with Applied Pharmacy Services, which is being investigated for providing anabolic steroids and HGH to professional athletes.

One of the names federal investigators discovered as a customer of APS was Evan Fields, whose birthday of Oct. 19, 1962, is the same as Holyfield's..

Holyfield denies using any performance enhancing substances and said he's never failed a test.

[EliteSoldier]

Holyfield looks in awesome shape. Hes clean and trains hard. I have been to his trainings, he gives 180 percent thats why he looks the way he does. Also has good weight training methods. Ibragimov looks in terrible shape. Holly is going to win this easy.

[MamaDuck]

This is one of those fights where emotions can really cloud judgment. When I think of Holyfield right now I still can't get the image of just a few years ago of James Toney embarrassing Evander by completely dismantling him in front of everyone. It was so sad to watch. Has Evander somehow now at an older age come back from that? True he beat Oquendo and Savarese and looked good in doing so, not great, good! but I just have to think of Ibragimov's unrelenting attack on Lance Whitaker, a giant of a heavyweight with incredible strength. Whitaker would have taken out Oquendo or Savarese in a couple of rounds, let alone what Ibragamov would do against either of those opponents. But, one can't help but relive the Holyfield of old. I remember thinking Tyson would be the Tyson of old so many times only to be disappointed in each of his last several fights. I know at this time people love to bring up George Foreman. Remember George Foreman retired in his mid twenties and for 12 years did not take a punch. He was a very young 40 year old and a much bigger, stronger and more durable one. Holyfield is a small heavyweight that I think we all know and is no longer a secret used enhancing products to gain the size that he had during the 90's.
Ibragimov on the other hand being a much younger man in the prime of his career doesn't look like much, but I seem to remember an awkward looking unflattering in his physical appearance heavyweight in the late 70's and early 80's named Larry Holmes that always looked to be the weaker physically against each of his opponents. But they kept stacking them up and Larry kept knocking them down. Jimmy Young also comes to mind right now, and for that matter Ali himself was not a physically imposing heavyweight at all in comparison to Foreman, Liston, Norton, Shavers, Williams, Wepner, and others he faced but strength is sometimes deceptive. The muscle bound Norton stated that physically Ali was the strongest man he'd ever face, when Ali wanted to clinch, you were going to get clinched.
I think in Ibragimov we have a fighter who is thick boned and extremely sturdy and durable with a good amount of power and speed. His hand speed is underated and has gone unnoticed. He is still a developing fighter who is still learning.
The biggest problems for Holyfield as I see it is as follow. 1.Ibragamov is 14 years younger and in his prime at 30 years of age, 2.Ibragimov is a southpaw 3.The fight is going to be held in Moscow. Those are the biggies, when I look at Holyfield and what he has going for him there is not much you can say other than he looks to be in good shape and that the lay off may have rejuvenated him, and he always has the big punch. It makes for an interesting fight, I think the smart money is on Ibragimov, but I wouldn't be surprised if.......hmmm. You never know, I remember another guy named Archie Moore........hmmmm.

Ibragimov had trouble with ray austin... nuff said.

[Dick-Sucker]

I was just about to say what a knowledgable boxing fan you are untill that last sentence.

Judge me by that tomorrow morning. You can't judge a boxing fan on a future prediction. Holy is going to do it easy. Speak tomorrow.

[Vladimir303]

Judge me by that tomorrow morning. You can't judge a boxing fan on a future prediction. Holy is going to do it easy. Speak tomorrow.

I'll speak today if that's all right with you. Nothing comes easy for holyfield. He had a close fight with Fres Oquendo and barely beat him....common now. No matter who wins it will be a close fight. Somebody getting hurt of course changes everything but if nobody gets hurt this thing is going to the judges hands with nobody knowing who is gonna get awarded the decision because that's how close the fight will be.

[Underboss]

You mean.... isn't it coincidental how Holyfield comes in light just as his name is implicated and his steroids connection gets busted?

damn...the ho in your avataar.

[Dorian]

[beez721]

Holyfield looks in awesome shape. Hes clean and trains hard. I have been to his trainings, he gives 180 percent thats why he looks the way he does. Also has good weight training methods. Ibragimov looks in terrible shape. Holly is going to win this easy.

someone please bump this post after the fight just in case I forget