Ibragimov 219, Holyfield 211.5!

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  • YNWA
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    #21
    holyfields looking like a cruiserweight again, really wouldnt wanna see him fight any of the big HWs at that weight

    sultan, despite bein a good fighter, has always looked like a well-built man on the street, doesnt look as if he's in particularly great shape though he always is

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    • starjammer
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      #22


      Anyone else think this looks like a poster for a comedy movie? The way everyone's goofing in on the side?

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      • YNWA
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        #23
        Originally posted by starjammer


        Anyone else think this looks like a poster for a comedy movie? The way everyone's goofing in on the side?
        looks like a scene out of airplane

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        • MR.CHICANITO
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          #24
          Go Evander....

          Wow Evander '' The Real Deal '' Holyfield Looks Ready To Rumble..i Wish My Idol Evander Holyfield The Very Best Of Luck Tomorrow Cuz I Would Luv 4 Evander To Win Tomorrow..go Holyfield..bring Back That Wbo Heavyweight Title To America..

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          • DIOS DOMINICANO
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            #25
            Originally posted by ddeg10
            It's common knowledge that Holyfield trains and works harder in the gym than anyone in the heavyweight division. His determination is unbelievable.
            HOW. ABOUT. THE. STEROIDS.

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            • BKM-
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              #26
              Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
              HOW. ABOUT. THE. STEROIDS.
              It doesn't matter how much you hate the guy, it's pathetic. And we'll see who has the last laugh on saterday.

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              • Dubliner
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                #27
                Who wins!!!

                This is one of those fights where emotions can really cloud judgment. When I think of Holyfield right now I still can't get the image of just a few years ago of James Toney embarrassing Evander by completely dismantling him in front of everyone. It was so sad to watch. Has Evander somehow now at an older age come back from that? True he beat Oquendo and Savarese and looked good in doing so, not great, good! but I just have to think of Ibragimov's unrelenting attack on Lance Whitaker, a giant of a heavyweight with incredible strength. Whitaker would have taken out Oquendo or Savarese in a couple of rounds, let alone what Ibragamov would do against either of those opponents. But, one can't help but relive the Holyfield of old. I remember thinking Tyson would be the Tyson of old so many times only to be disappointed in each of his last several fights. I know at this time people love to bring up George Foreman. Remember George Foreman retired in his mid twenties and for 12 years did not take a punch. He was a very young 40 year old and a much bigger, stronger and more durable one. Holyfield is a small heavyweight that I think we all know and is no longer a secret used enhancing products to gain the size that he had during the 90's.
                Ibragimov on the other hand being a much younger man in the prime of his career doesn't look like much, but I seem to remember an awkward looking unflattering in his physical appearance heavyweight in the late 70's and early 80's named Larry Holmes that always looked to be the weaker physically against each of his opponents. But they kept stacking them up and Larry kept knocking them down. Jimmy Young also comes to mind right now, and for that matter Ali himself was not a physically imposing heavyweight at all in comparison to Foreman, Liston, Norton, Shavers, Williams, Wepner, and others he faced but strength is sometimes deceptive. The muscle bound Norton stated that physically Ali was the strongest man he'd ever face, when Ali wanted to clinch, you were going to get clinched.
                I think in Ibragimov we have a fighter who is thick boned and extremely sturdy and durable with a good amount of power and speed. His hand speed is underated and has gone unnoticed. He is still a developing fighter who is still learning.
                The biggest problems for Holyfield as I see it is as follow. 1.Ibragamov is 14 years younger and in his prime at 30 years of age, 2.Ibragimov is a southpaw 3.The fight is going to be held in Moscow. Those are the biggies, when I look at Holyfield and what he has going for him there is not much you can say other than he looks to be in good shape and that the lay off may have rejuvenated him, and he always has the big punch. It makes for an interesting fight, I think the smart money is on Ibragimov, but I wouldn't be surprised if.......hmmm. You never know, I remember another guy named Archie Moore........hmmmm.

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                • starjammer
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dubliner
                  This is one of those fights where emotions can really cloud judgment. When I think of Holyfield right now I still can't get the image of just a few years ago of James Toney embarrassing Evander by completely dismantling him in front of everyone. It was so sad to watch. Has Evander somehow now at an older age come back from that? True he beat Oquendo and Savarese and looked good in doing so, not great, good! but I just have to think of Ibragimov's unrelenting attack on Lance Whitaker, a giant of a heavyweight with incredible strength. Whitaker would have taken out Oquendo or Savarese in a couple of rounds, let alone what Ibragamov would do against either of those opponents. But, one can't help but relive the Holyfield of old. I remember thinking Tyson would be the Tyson of old so many times only to be disappointed in each of his last several fights. I know at this time people love to bring up George Foreman. Remember George Foreman retired in his mid twenties and for 12 years did not take a punch. He was a very young 40 year old and a much bigger, stronger and more durable one. Holyfield is a small heavyweight that I think we all know and is no longer a secret used enhancing products to gain the size that he had during the 90's.
                  Ibragimov on the other hand being a much younger man in the prime of his career doesn't look like much, but I seem to remember an awkward looking unflattering in his physical appearance heavyweight in the late 70's and early 80's named Larry Holmes that always looked to be the weaker physically against each of his opponents. But they kept stacking them up and Larry kept knocking them down. Jimmy Young also comes to mind right now, and for that matter Ali himself was not a physically imposing heavyweight at all in comparison to Foreman, Liston, Norton, Shavers, Williams, Wepner, and others he faced but strength is sometimes deceptive. The muscle bound Norton stated that physically Ali was the strongest man he'd ever face, when Ali wanted to clinch, you were going to get clinched.
                  I think in Ibragimov we have a fighter who is thick boned and extremely sturdy and durable with a good amount of power and speed. His hand speed is underated and has gone unnoticed. He is still a developing fighter who is still learning.
                  The biggest problems for Holyfield as I see it is as follow. 1.Ibragamov is 14 years younger and in his prime at 30 years of age, 2.Ibragimov is a southpaw 3.The fight is going to be held in Moscow. Those are the biggies, when I look at Holyfield and what he has going for him there is not much you can say other than he looks to be in good shape and that the lay off may have rejuvenated him, and he always has the big punch. It makes for an interesting fight, I think the smart money is on Ibragimov, but I wouldn't be surprised if.......hmmm. You never know, I remember another guy named Archie Moore........hmmmm.
                  Hello fellow Dub.

                  Great post. I agree totally, the smart man would pick Ibragimov, but I can't help buying into the Holyfield dream that anything is possible. Do you reckon Ibragimov will show Evander much respect, as in my mind, this is the only way Evander could take this fight on points?

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                  • raysan
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                    HOW. ABOUT. THE. STEROIDS.
                    make the same post enough times and youll get a response. are you happy now that someone acknowledged you?

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                    • Derranged_
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                      #30
                      I’m picking Ibragimov to win a tough, fast fought UD. Obviously both fighters are in great shape and hopefully put on a great show. And guys, don’t forget the fact that this fight is being fought on Ibragimov’s home turf of Moscow; that may or may not be a factor…

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