Hagler .vs. Pavlik

[Ironside]

I'm just in awe that because Pavlik beat Taylor people are saying he would knock out some of the greatest middleweights in history. Hes good, but hes not that damn good yet. Come ask me again in 5 years and I'll reconsider. A lot of people did not know who Pavlik was before Zertuche. Now two fights later and you guys are saying he would knock out basically everybody in boxing.

That's because he beat down Miranda, who was feared by most of the division, and he beat JT in an impressive fashion. Don't think he has shown any significant weakness yet.

[Addison]

If both were in their prime in the same year let's say who do you think wins this fight?

Hagler destroys him in 10 rounds. Leonard loses a UD to the ghost and Thomas Hearns gets TKOd.

What??? I disagree, we can live it at that.

[Trevbutler]

That's because he beat down Miranda, who was feared by most of the division, and he beat JT in an impressive fashion. Don't think he has shown any significant weakness yet.

But lets get real. How good was Miranda? He can **** but who has he beat that would have made him world class? Taylor... I like him, but he was questionable all the way back to his first win over Benard Hopkins. The fight against Pavlik was the first time we seen a glimpse of the old Taylor.

So he beat an ok Miranda, but Miranda is not close to being elite. He beat Taylor who we all knew was having some kinds of problem. Pavlik showed that even though he can be in a close or loosing fight he can still win by KO. And he also showed that he can be knocked out by a good finisher.

So beating Taylor gives Pavlik fans the right to rank him with Hearns, Hagler, and SRL? Like I said, if Pavlik continues to improve and dominate for 5 more years then I would say you could do that.

For example, Hearns was fighting really good fighters for years. Hearns did not beat one guy and everybody knows him today because of that.

[SkillspayBills]

Hagler would ****** Pavlik in what would probably be a fight of the year. Leonard would also beat Pavlik the way he did Hagler, except more flashy.