Pac is the best 130 lb fighter ever.

[sonofisis]

Floyd at 130 got his ass handed to him by Castillo who isnt even MAB-like. Get real.

Floyd fought Castillo at 135 (not 130, and he beat him twice) genius.. You have no credibility, please watch more boxing..

[joepal]

Mayweather was 26-0 at 130, with 9 title defenses/meaningful fights, against the following..

Jesus Chavez 129½ 36-1-0


Carlos Hernandez 128½ 33-2-1


Diego Corrales 130 33-0-0


Emanuel Augustus 134 22-16-4


Gregorio Vargas 130 40-6-1


Carlos Gerena 130 34-2-0


Justin Juuko 130 33-2-1


Carlos Alberto Ramon Rios 129 44-2-1


Angel Manfredy 130 25-2-1


Genaro Hernandez 130 38-1-1


Tony Pep 130 39-6-0


^Nuff said.. Pacquiao is definitely overrated by some of his his fans if this is what some of them actually believe. You are lying to us and are lying to yourself.

Are you kidding me? Who among those you mentioned even comes close to a MAB and a Morales? No one, not even close! And Pac beat these great HOFERs FIVE ****ING TIMES!

[crold1]

Joepal: I'm having a hard time wondering if this is serious or just a troll thread where you're laughing your ass off that anyone would even look at this tripe topic.

And, as I said, all those HOF'ers were HOF'ers based on what they did long before getting to 130. They're great wins, but, again, they only happened at 130 because everyone was moving up to chase Morales who moved out when the division got soft as hell.

For people who are actually serious, here's the top ten all time at 130 IMO:
Mayweather
Saddler
Chocolate
Chavez
Arguello
Elorde
Tod Morgan
Mitchell
Vilaflor
Nelson

[joepal]

Floyd fought Castillo at 135 (and beat him twice) you dumb ass.. You have no credibility, please watch more boxing..

He was saying that Floyd was a monster around that weight. If he was really such, why did Castillo DOMINATE him?

[BrooklynBomber]

Floyd at 130 got his ass handed to him by Castillo who isnt even MAB-like. Get real.

A)Castillo would have killed MAB, Morales, and Pacman
B)Floyd beat him the second time around
C)Floyd was a big puncher with excellent chin and skills, he would have beat anyone from this trio.


So, boy, it is you who should get real.

[BmoreBrawler]

Of course you never mentioned that two of these were HOFers whom Pacquiao absolutely DOMINATED 5 feking times. Why am I not surprised? You're a feking PacHater!

yeah, talk about something backfiring in your face. I read his list and he convinces me that Pac is an ATG @130.

BTW SonofIsis, not to criticize either way, but are you making the statement by your avatar/sig that Egyptians were Black Africans? Or are you referencing another people group and I show my ignorance in thinking that they are Egyptians just because they dress like them? Just wondering, you've piqued my interest.

[sonofisis]

Are you kidding me? Who among those you mentioned even comes close to a MAB and a Morales? No one, not even close! And Pac beat these great HOFERs FIVE ****ING TIMES!

Pac beat the same two old ass Mexican fighters, that's what he did at 130.. Floyd beat the best in that division, and cleaned it out, not to mention that his wins against Corrales and Genaro were particularly exceptional..

[sonofisis]

BTW SonofIsis, not to criticize either way, but are you making the statement by your avatar/sig that Egyptians were Black Africans? Or are you referencing another people group and I show my ignorance in thinking that they are Egyptians just because they dress like them? Just wondering, you've piqued my interest.

This is a 2004 Discovery Channel forensic facial reconstruction of Nefertiti's mummy by British anthropologists. I haven't made any particular statement..If I'm to answer your question though, maybe you should define your concept of "Black African". Seems like a false dichotomy since it is clear that a great many were dark skinned africans akin to other africans like the Beja, Nubians, and Somali, as is indicated by morphological and dna data..

[joepal]

Joepal: I'm having a hard time wondering if this is serious or just a troll thread where you're laughing your ass off that anyone would even look at this tripe topic.

For people who are actually serious, here's the top ten all time at 130 IMO:
Mayweather
Saddler
Chocolate
Chavez
Arguello
Elorde
Tod Morgan
Mitchell
Vilaflor
Nelson

That is what you "pseudo-students" of the game got it all wrong. You get alll so enamored with statistics that you make a lot of faulty assumptions. These "records" dont tell the whole ****ing story. Does the "UD" tell you how the great MAB ran like an amateur against Pacquiao? HELL NO! Also, Barrera wouldnt have run like a ***** from any of those guys you mentioned. Second, you guys hold past fighters too much on a pedestal. Third, and as proof of the first two, Elorde wouldnt have a chance against Pacquiao, he has lost to fighters far less than a MAB, Morales or a JMM.

[joepal]

Oh ****, how could I forget arguello and his crushing straight punches.

Of course you forgot! Did you grow up watching him? Biatch.