Pac Needs to go to 135

[kadyo's]

Seems that the move to Lightweight is being considered by both Pac and Roach very seriously.

********* reports as much: http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIG...fight-oct6.htm

Thanks for the link buddy. Will have little celebration in an hour. What do you think about pac's fight tonight, you think he improved technically? Damn, I don't like to take anything away from barrera but he fought a very technical fight which come short because he lacks stamina in the late rounds where he fought in spurts and could't sustain his attack. Props to both fighters for giving us a hell of a fight.

[grayfist]

Thanks for the link buddy. Will have little celebration in an hour. What do you think about pac's fight tonight, you think he improved technically? Damn, I don't like to take anything away from barrera but he fought a very technical fight which come short because he lacks stamina in the late rounds where he fought in spurts and could't sustain his attack. Props to both fighters for giving us a hell of a fight.

Celebration, buddy? That's the way to go!

I was looking at the fight and saw less and less of the fighting techniques involved, and more and more of the psychological stakes.

The way I saw it, Manny quickly saw that Barrera did not want to engage, so, it seems that he allowed the fight to go the way it did. To me, that's a sign of a bit of maturity. Why push when you'll win anyway? Why risk when risks are not needed?

In the post fight interview, Pac also mentioned that he always kept an eye on Barrera's headbutting. So, he did not recklessly chase MAB. I suspect that it took a lot out of Manny to restrain himself. He instinctively tries to get his man in the trenches, but had to contain himself, knowing that danger lurked there.

As for MAB, he has said prior to the fight that it was his last engagement. What he did during the fight spoke volumes about his retirement plans. I don't blame him. Why get hurt unduly? Barrera provided strong hints of his mind-set during the post-fight interview quoted in the same link I provided earlier. He said Manny is too big and too strong. He claimed that he felt Pacquiao's punches more in the first fight than in the second. But what he did not say was that he felt less of Many's fists because he stayed away from them most of the time. In exchange for not landing too many punches either.

I don't knock Barrera. I believe no one should. AFter all of those great moments he provided fans through nearly two decades, I think he should get a free pass for doing what he did.

Good to see you again, buddy! Put one down the shaft for me, please? A San Mig light...

Thanks, pal!
Congratulations to ya'll!

[kadyo's]

Celebration, buddy? That's the way to go!

I was looking at the fight and saw less and less of the fighting techniques involved, and more and more of the psychological stakes.

The way I saw it, Manny quickly saw that Barrera did not want to engage, so, it seems that he allowed the fight to go the way it did. To me, that's a sign of a bit of maturity. Why push when you'll win anyway? Why risk when risks are not needed?

In the post fight interview, Pac also mentioned that he always kept an eye on Barrera's headbutting. So, he did not recklessly chase MAB. I suspect that it took a lot out of Manny to restrain himself. He instinctively tries to get his man in the trenches, but had to contain himself, knowing that danger lurked there.

As for MAB, he has said prior to the fight that it was his last engagement. What he did during the fight spoke volumes about his retirement plans. I don't blame him. Why get hurt unduly? Barrera provided strong hints of his mind-set during the post-fight interview quoted in the same link I provided earlier. He said Manny is too big and too strong. He claimed that he felt Pacquiao's punches more in the first fight than in the second. But what he did not say was that he felt less of Many's fists because he stayed away from them most of the time. In exchange for not landing too many punches either.

I don't knock Barrera. I believe no one should. AFter all of those great moments he provided fans through nearly two decades, I think he should get a free pass for doing what he did.

Good to see you again, buddy! Put one down the shaft for me, please? A San Mig light...

Thanks, pal!
Congratulations to ya'll!

Thanks for the insight buddy. I thought barrera fought well and was adapting differents fight styles in the early rounds like back pedaling in one round, staying in front in another, cirlcling to the right in another and a combination of two or three in anothe.I thought he was successful in round 2 and round 3 but Pac was simply too fast and was able to find a way to connect those right hooks and straight lefts that may have remind barrera of a nightmare he suffered 4 years ago so he did what he did to survive the fight. I haven't read much of their comments because I just logged on.

Will put down two san mig light for ya buddy and a lot of pale pilsen for myself haha!!!

[grayfist]

Thanks for the insight buddy. I thought barrera fought well and was adapting differents fight styles in the early rounds like back pedaling in one round, staying in front in another, cirlcling to the right in another and a combination of two or three in anothe.I thought he was successful in round 2 and round 3 but Pac was simply too fast and was able to find a way to connect those right hooks and straight lefts that may have remind barrera of a nightmare he suffered 4 years ago so he did what he did to survive the fight. I haven't read much of their comments because I just logged on.

Will put down two san mig light for ya buddy and a lot of pale pilsen for myself haha!!!

Thanks pal! Best to all Pinoys!

[The Corrupted]

Manny should fight Marquez so we will know who really is the best in the superfeather weight is it the mexican fighther Juan Manuel Marquez or the fighthing pride of the philippines Manny Pacquiao. Matira Matibay!!

[Parody]

Chris john beat JMM in a close fight.

The first third of the fight contained four extremely close rounds in which the variance in possible scoring was likely very wide. Chris John started to assert himself as the boxer while Marquez repeatedly tried to slash into John's guard with heavy punches. Chris John also landed his share of telling blows throughout the fight and seemed to be the quicker of the two fighters.

With the start of round 5, Marquez appeared to land the more telling punches as John became less active in the bout. This trend continued into round 10, where Marquez was deducted a point for repeated low blows against John. In round 11, John appeared to pick up the tempo. This round led to another point deduction against Marquez which sealed a 10-8 round for John. As the bout came to a close in round 12, it was clear that Marquez was low on stamina. The 12th was a close round, but likely a round that John rightfully won.

Due to the limited viewing by westerners, most reports came out of Asia. Those reports seemed to suggest that this was a just decision. However, some outside of Asia, especially those who watched the fight without audio, seemed to favor Marquez. At the very least, the scoring may have been closer than the scores suggest.

[gixxer]

JMM landed the harder punches, landed more punches, threw more punches, landed at a higher connect percentage, was much more consistent, and was the consistent aggressor against John. I scored 2 rounds of the fight for John, and the only way you could have given him the win was to have given him at least 6 rounds of the fight plus the deductions.

very good sir a man who ca judge a fight for himself.plus they were in john homeland wich didint help

[THRILLAinmanila]

Personally, I'd rather that Pacquiao stays at 130 long enough to take on JMM, Valero, Guzman and some guy coming up from Featherweight who in time proves worthy to make the challenge. This is just so that no one can later claim having been ducked by Pacquiao.

As for his weight issues, I think it was in large part brought about by his prolonged stay outside the competitive ring which, in turn, was caused by the Golden Boy-Top Rank contractual dispute. If Pacquiao fights three or four times next year, I suspect he'd be better able to handle the job of getting to 130 for each of the appearances.

An added benefit to having a busy scheduled may be that Pacquiao shall have less time for those "extra-curricular activities" that have done him nothing good.

In 09, he can cast his eyes at Lightweight...

hey there bud. Take two with JMM, yes, everybody wants to see it. A fight with valero would be good for the fans, but wont make monetary sense as ths could not be made in the u.s. A guzman fight probably wil make good ppv numbers, but not as good as when you have the mexicans rooting for the other side

[Drunken Cat]

My stuff from the "i don't know **** about cutting weight" people. I really don't think he's that big for 130.. unless he's been popping roids big time.

[grayfist]

hey there bud. Take two with JMM, yes, everybody wants to see it. A fight with valero would be good for the fans, but wont make monetary sense as ths could not be made in the u.s. A guzman fight probably wil make good ppv numbers, but not as good as when you have the mexicans rooting for the other side

Hello there ol' pal!

Yes, the JMM fight seems destined for Vegas or LA.

As for Valero... I don't know buddy but I'm an optimist in this respect. Is it my desire to see the three matches that's getting the better of my assessments? Perhaps.

Anyway, I am noting with keen interest the fact that the WBA has just concluded its convention in China and from all accounts, it has been a resounding success. It seems to be that something good's abrewing in China with regard the fight game there. Or, is it still too early to say...?

Just the same, incurable optimist that I am, I'm seeing the ascent of the Chinese woman in the distaff side of the sport along with the success of the WBA confab as feet in the door. And the door can be busted wide open by something in the level of a Pacquiao fight. ("Hope springs eternal...")

The Chinese middle and upper classes--whose numbers are multiplying-- have money to spend. I don't think they'll mind shelling out fair amounts for a Pacquiao-Valero fight. Then, there are the casinos in Macao some of which are American owned (MGM, Wynn, etc.) They may come in too. On top of all that is HBO, which will be only too willing to beam the fight to the US and everywhere else.

I think there will be wads to be counted...

As for Guzman/Soto vs. Pacquiao, it may not be as big as Pacquiao-JMM, or Pacquiao's meetings with Morales and MAB, but then, I don't think there's too many of that sort down the road for Pacquiao.


Pacquiao-Guzman will, I think, generate sufficient interest. A Soto victory over Guzman can make it even more interesting as Soto is Mexican.

Neither won't be a blockbuster, but I think it will make money; provided neither Guzman nor Soto demand the heavens.

Best to the Pinoys, buddy!

I just remembered: Beijing will be hosting the Olympics next year....