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  • Floydmayweather
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    #51
    Originally posted by sonofisis
    I honestly think Pac would get killed at 135 by the first person he fights. Moving up to 130, he immediately lost to Morales and had trouble with Velazquez before he eventually TKOed him..
    I gotta disagree Pac has grown into the frame and i think moving up will only help his chin.

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    • grayfist
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      #52
      Personally, I'd rather that Pacquiao stays at 130 long enough to take on JMM, Valero, Guzman and some guy coming up from Featherweight who in time proves worthy to make the challenge. This is just so that no one can later claim having been ducked by Pacquiao.

      As for his weight issues, I think it was in large part brought about by his prolonged stay outside the competitive ring which, in turn, was caused by the Golden Boy-Top Rank contractual dispute. If Pacquiao fights three or four times next year, I suspect he'd be better able to handle the job of getting to 130 for each of the appearances.

      An added benefit to having a busy scheduled may be that Pacquiao shall have less time for those "extra-curricular activities" that have done him nothing good.

      In 09, he can cast his eyes at Lightweight...

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      • MakeDamnSure
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        #53
        It doesn't matter who he fights next.. Whoever Pacquiao will fight, Mexicans will always have an excuse who can't accept defeat and has a pride... If Pac defeats Marquez, it's still the same and then call Soto..

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        • chipsandsalsa
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          #54
          Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
          It doesn't matter who he fights next.. Whoever Pacquiao will fight, Mexicans will always have an excuse who can't accept defeat and has a pride... If Pac defeats Marquez, it's still the same and then call Soto..

          like xcaret.

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          • grayfist
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            #55
            Seems that the move to Lightweight is being considered by both Pac and Roach very seriously.

            ********* reports as much: http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIG...fight-oct6.htm

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              #56
              Originally posted by grayfist
              Seems that the move to Lightweight is being considered by both Pac and Roach very seriously.

              ********* reports as much: http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIG...fight-oct6.htm
              i hope he stays at 130... too many fights still to be made... but health is priority, whatever happens we'll support manny all the way...

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              • grayfist
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                #57
                Originally posted by AIR_KENG
                i hope he stays at 130... too many fights still to be made... but health is priority, whatever happens we'll support manny all the way...
                I share your wish Air... The way things stand, he may be THE MAN at Jr. Light, but he does not wear a world belt. He only has the "International" strap. I'd personally wish he could tarry some and win a 130-lbs. crown before moving up. So, I hope they find some way for him to stay at 130.

                I'm kinda hoping, too, that they'll find that Pacquiao's weight issues were derived from his having been out of the ring longer than usual-- what with the GBP-Arum problem still going through legal processes. I was thinking that if he is made more active-- say, 3 or 4 fights in 08-- he'll be able to trim down to fighting weight a lot better, and a bit easier, as he won't have time to gain too much poundage between fights, and thus, not much to shed in training.

                But you're right, health is top priority.

                Anyway, the idea of fighting at lightweight will allow him a shot at going down in history as the first Asian World Jr. Featherweight champ to ever win a world Lightweight crown. Jeff Fenech tried, but his bid was foiled by Philipp Holiday--by TKO-- in a fight for the IBF Lightweight crown.

                Pacquiao shall also have the chance to gain the distinction of being the first Flyweight title holder to successfully move up to Lightweight and win a world title at the latter weight class.

                He is already the first and only fighter to win BOTH THE LINEAL FLYWEIGHT AND LINEAL FEATHERWEIGHT CROWNS.
                Last edited by grayfist; 10-07-2007, 06:47 AM.

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                • MakeDamnSure
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                  #58
                  Pac already said in an interview that he doesn't give a damn on those belts. Fights are important rather than the belts.. Sanction Fees are such a waste! He already jumped 6 divisions and be a 6 division champ but he don't give a damn on those trash belts anyway.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
                    Pac already said in an interview that he doesn't give a damn on those belts. Fights are important rather than the belts.. Sanction Fees are such a waste! He already jumped 6 divisions and be a 6 division champ but he don't give a damn on those trash belts anyway.
                    He brought his international belt to the fight as he has done in the past, which, to me indicates that he has respect for the belt. He fought for and earned it, after all.

                    And, I presume, he is paying sanctioning fees, in defense of his "international" title when he went up against Barrera.

                    I haven't learned Pacquiao actually saying he does not care about belts. It shall be out of his character to denegrate anything, much less, a sanctioning body-- which is not to say that sanctioning bodies deserve respect.

                    The fella is just that: he does not put down people or organizations.

                    If he said anything of the sort that you say he did, then I am wrong about Pacquiao's character, and would appreciate being proven so by your providing a link to that interview.

                    I suspect many on this site would like to see it or hear it too, straight from Pacquiao's mouth.
                    Last edited by grayfist; 10-07-2007, 07:20 AM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by THRILLAinmanila
                      After this fight and going after JMM, Pacman needs
                      to go to 135. He obviously has struggled to make weight,
                      and you can see it in the weigh-in pics.

                      Its gonna be tough in that division, but the new challenge
                      is what he needs. No need to prove anything more at 130.
                      Pac told his wife after the weigh-in that this maybe his last fight at 130 because of his difficulty in making the weight. Maybe he doesn't want to do a castillo or God bless jis soul, a corrales,

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