Did Floyd dodge Tszyu?

[RodBarker]

Rod, will you answer one simple question? Why do champions get stripped?

Most times for not defending it , but geez mate fights dont happen for a million reasons , the level we are talkng about is run by lawyers , there is so many high profile people involved demanding so many things some fights just dont get made , fights dont happen for lots of behind the scene reasons , somebody ducking is way down the bottom of the heap most of the time , but everybody hypes it to the top of the heap ,, good press say the promoters is any press .


Joepal , offer something intelligent to back your argument or go outside and play , your buddys miss you !

[joepal]

Most times for not defending it , but geez mate fights dont happen for a million reasons , the level we are talkng about is run by lawyers , there is so many high profile people involved demanding so many things some fights just dont get made , fights dont happen for lots of behind the scene reasons , somebody ducking is way down the bottom of the heap most of the time , but everybody hypes it to the top of the heap ,, good press say the promoters is any press .


Joepal , offer something intelligent to back your argument or go outside and play , your buddys miss you !

Pac wanted the MAB fight, he got it. He wanted the Morales fight, he got it. He wanted the JMM fight he got it. No lawyers got in the way. That's just a cop-out excuse for Floyd. If a fighter really wants a fight, he WILL make it happen.

[RodBarker]

I love this line: "he picked Hatton because of the payday." lol What kind of payday do you think he would have received by fighting FLOYD??

No hate here, Rod. I'm just not blind.

Mate think about for one minute ,,,, KT went to Manchester you know why because Johnny Lewis said they got an offer they could not refuse ,,, so they had KTs biggest career purse for what they thought was an easy fight , what the **** do you think they are going to do ,,,, Floyd was nowhere near the profile he is now and was considered very dangerous again from Lewis .

Mate I know people that are friends with KT and Lewis , I just painted a portrait that was presented to Robbie Peddon retirement , I hear things from within the game here in Aus ,, Floyd did not duck KT ever .. fact .

Pac wanted the MAB fight, he got it. He wanted the Morales fight, he got it. He wanted the JMM fight he got it. No lawyers got in the way. That's just a cop-out excuse for Floyd. If a fighter really wants a fight, he WILL make it happen.

Economics and timing of both fighters ment a KT Mayweather fight hinged on KT beating Hatton , he didnt and the rest his history

[Wiley Hyena]

Most times for not defending it , but geez mate fights dont happen for a million reasons , the level we are talkng about is run by lawyers , there is so many high profile people involved demanding so many things some fights just dont get made , fights dont happen for lots of behind the scene reasons , somebody ducking is way down the bottom of the heap most of the time , but everybody hypes it to the top of the heap ,, good press say the promoters is any press .


Joepal , offer something intelligent to back your argument or go outside and play , your buddys miss you !

True. But the fact is that if Mayweather had maintained his status in Jr WW, he could have forced KT to fight him, or be stripped! And, you're saying that the lawyers would have gotten in the way of all that money? That was a superfight.... C'mon Rod. I know you understand all this, and I KNOW you can see exactly where I'm coming from. Floyd didn't want Tszyu, in spite of the talk. That talk was posturing to save face! It was phony crap and speaking of lawyers, the whole idea of talking up Tszyu was probably invented by his lawyers. And don't cite injuries and layoff to me. Look at KT's fight record. He fought in 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004! Where's the big layoff? Where are the injuries??? My God, Tszyu was top ten p4p during all those years.

Floyd could have had Tszyu, the undisputed jr WW champ in 2003! Talk about Tszyu's biggest payday. You saying that Tszyu ran from Floyd and all that money?? Bull****! You know it and I know it.

[Wiley Hyena]

Mate think about for one minute ,,,, KT went to Manchester you know why because Johnny Lewis said they got an offer they could not refuse ,,, so they had KTs biggest career purse for what they thought was an easy fight , what the **** do you think they are going to do ,,,, Floyd was nowhere near the profile he is now and was considered very dangerous again from Lewis .

Mate I know people that are friends with KT and Lewis , I just painted a portrait that was presented to Robbie Peddon retirement , I hear things from within the game here in Aus ,, Floyd did not duck KT ever .. fact .



Economics and timing of both fighters ment a KT Mayweather fight hinged on KT beating Hatton , he didnt and the rest his history

RodBarker quote: "Floyd was nowhere near the profile he is now and was considered very dangerous again from Lewis."

Floyd had major pull in 2003 and 2004. More pull than Ricky Hatton!

Your second story connections have no relation to Floyd Mayweather, JR. If Floyd had wanted KT he would have gotten KT.

God, I remember Larry Merchant commenting on what the hell was Mayweather doing fighting Gatti instead of Kostya Tszyu! Don't need any second story connections to understand the meaning of that statement.

[Wiley Hyena]

RodBarker quote: "Floyd was nowhere near the profile he is now and was considered very dangerous again from Lewis."

Floyd had major pull in 2003 and 2004. More pull than Ricky Hatton!

Your second story connections have no relation to Floyd Mayweather, JR. If Floyd had wanted KT he would have gotten KT.

God, I remember Larry Merchant commenting on what the hell was Mayweather doing fighting Gatti instead of Kostya Tszyu! Don't need any second story connections to understand the meaning of that statement.

Ok....now. We've gone and done it again Rod. I respect you and you're opinions. But, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one and let it be. Plus....It's almost 4:00 am here and I have to turn in.....good night. Cheers.

[RodBarker]

I love this line: "he picked Hatton because of the payday." lol What kind of payday do you think he would have received by fighting FLOYD??

No hate here, Rod. I'm just not blind.

True. But the fact is that if Mayweather had maintained his status in Jr WW, he could have forced KT to fight him, or be stripped! And, you're saying that the lawyers would have gotten in the way of all that money? That was a superfight.... C'mon Rod. I know you understand all this, and I KNOW you can see exactly where I'm coming from. Floyd didn't want Tszyu, in spite of the talk. That talk was posturing to save face! It was phony crap and speaking of lawyers, the whole idea of talking up Tszyu was probably invented by his lawyers. And don't cite injuries and layoff to me. Look at KT's fight record. He fought in 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004! Where's the big layoff? Where are the injuries??? My God, Tszyu was top ten p4p during all those years.

Floyd could have had Tszyu, the undisputed jr WW champ in 2003! Talk about Tszyu's biggest payday. You saying that Tszyu ran from Floyd and all that money?? Bull****! You know it and I know it.

First thing Ive have never said KT ducked Floyd , thats your own creation !

Where are the injurys ,,, mate you dont know what you are talking about he fought 3 rounds in 2-1/2 years and postponed Mitchel because of a shoulder that plaged him for years , its common knowledge , why do you think he had shoulder surgery ,, mate I dont feel like going over it with you there is enough in what Ive already said backed up by dates , we know what we know , if you think Floyd ducked KT thats your prerogative , but before you start threads like this you might want to remember Dec 8 some people are going to look pretty ****** .

[joepal]

Mate think about for one minute ,,,, KT went to Manchester you know why because Johnny Lewis said they got an offer they could not refuse ,,, so they had KTs biggest career purse for what they thought was an easy fight , what the **** do you think they are going to do ,,,, Floyd was nowhere near the profile he is now and was considered very dangerous again from Lewis .

Mate I know people that are friends with KT and Lewis , I just painted a portrait that was presented to Robbie Peddon retirement , I hear things from within the game here in Aus ,, Floyd did not duck KT ever .. fact .



Economics and timing of both fighters ment a KT Mayweather fight hinged on KT beating Hatton , he didnt and the rest his history

Economics? Nah. More like a lack of balls. He couldve fought KT way before the Hatton fight WHEN THE FANS WERE CLAMORING FOR THE FIGHT.

[joepal]

True. But the fact is that if Mayweather had maintained his status in Jr WW, he could have forced KT to fight him, or be stripped! And, you're saying that the lawyers would have gotten in the way of all that money? That was a superfight.... C'mon Rod. I know you understand all this, and I KNOW you can see exactly where I'm coming from. Floyd didn't want Tszyu, in spite of the talk. That talk was posturing to save face! It was phony crap and speaking of lawyers, the whole idea of talking up Tszyu was probably invented by his lawyers. And don't cite injuries and layoff to me. Look at KT's fight record. He fought in 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004! Where's the big layoff? Where are the injuries??? My God, Tszyu was top ten p4p during all those years.

Floyd could have had Tszyu, the undisputed jr WW champ in 2003! Talk about Tszyu's biggest payday. You saying that Tszyu ran from Floyd and all that money?? Bull****! You know it and I know it.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[El Jesus]

Hatton fought Tzsyu in 2005. Tzsyu top ten p4p 2001-2004. Sorry. The layoff and injury excuse just doesn't work. Look at his career record. Floyd ducked, just like Oscar, just like Mosely. They didn't want him at 140, guys.

ok, go ahead in relish in your own idiocy if you want.

Tszyu was tied to fight hatton during the start of 05 late 04. he fought him of may of 05, in the latter part of 04, floyd fought brusseles to get in a mandatory position to fight gatti, floyd was then tied to gatti in early 05, while tszyu was tied to hatton. Floyd fought gatti in june of 05, in which floyd expressed him ambition to move and take on the official welterweight champion of the time, zab super. Tszyu hasnt been heard from since. keep in mind floyd had been at 140 less than a year, and when he entered the division, tszyu was injured.

believe your own bull**** if you want, i guess factoring differing networks, injuries and buisness arent enough for you and your hardheadedness and your inability to grasp any concept beyond your own warped misconceptions.