Julian Jackson's punching power: Underrated?

**Energy** · 10-04-2007, 08:24 PM

Well all he had is power so it can't be that underrated.

**Thread Stealer** · 10-04-2007, 10:31 PM

the list was for best punchers, not pure power. joe louis didn't have as much pure power and naturally heavy hands as others like foreman and shavers, but he had better technique, accuracy, combinations, and was ranked #1 for it.

**Verstyle** · 10-04-2007, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by DWiens421

1. Kelly Pavlik
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchell
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Thomas Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Felix Trinidad
31. Pipino Cuevas
32. Jim Jefferies
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Alfonso Zamora
48. David Tua
49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong
58. Bob Satterfield
59. Al Hostak
60. Jesus Pimentel
61. Eugene (Cyclone) Hart
62. Lew Jenkins
63. Harry Wills
64. Tom Sharkey
65. Terry McGovern
66. Jersey Joe Walcott
67. Kostya Tszyu
68. Leotis Martin
69. Buddy Baer
70. Donovan (Razor) Ruddock
71. Jose Luis Ramirez
72. Tommy Gomez
73. Jose Napoles
74. Kid McCoy
75. Antonio Esparragoza
76. Ricardo Moreno
77. Evander Holyfield
78. Ike Williams
79. Luis Firpo
80. Ricardo Lopez
81. Humberto Gonzalez
82. Bobby Chacon
83. Jock McAvoy
84. Eduardo Lausse
85. Eder Jofre
86. Charley Burley
87. Mike McCallum
88. Salvador Sanchez
89. Roy Jones Jr.
90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
91. Nigel Benn
92. (Irish) Bob Murphy
93. Paul Berlenbach
94. Battling Torres
95. Chalky Wright
96. George (K.O.) Chaney
97. Andy Ganigan
98. Fred Fulton
99. Ingemar Johansson
100. Charley White

Thanks to dualchamps for the list.

I can't believe he is 25th on the list. He only had 1 title fight that didn't end in a KO victory for him, against Thomas Tate.

I am also downright shocked that he never got knockout of the year at any time.

His KO of Terry Norris was incredible. He threw that punch hard, and FAST. It even looked faster than a regular punch in slow-motion.

Does someone know something I don't about this?

I like the guy thats number one on this list. I dont care how many ppl hate on him and say he's overrated. That dude deserves the number one spot.

**Thread Stealer** · 10-04-2007, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by DWiens421

I am also downright shocked that he never got knockout of the year at any time.

His KO of Terry Norris was incredible. He threw that punch hard, and FAST. It even looked faster than a regular punch in slow-motion.

nunn-kalambay in 1989 was more impressive. kalambay was a more proven veteran at the time and had a terrific chin. kalambay was out, where as norris at least stumbled to his feet groggy.

norris-mugabi in 1990 winning ko of the year, i dont know what the ring was smoking then. both ruddock-dokes and jackson-graham were better.

ring didn't have ko of the year in 1988. jackson-drayton would have been a good choice.

**McNulty** · 10-04-2007, 10:57 PM

Jackson had ill hands and Tyson that far down is bull****.

**MightyMikeA** · 10-04-2007, 11:01 PM

Roy Jones had some of the fastest and most accurate punches ever and he's 89?? wtf!!

**McNulty** · 10-04-2007, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by MightyMikeA

Roy Jones had some of the fastest and most accurate punches ever and he's 89?? wtf!!

Good post...Jones had ill power w/all the trimings. These sort of lists will be made till the end of time...dont mean **** just cuz its a list.

**Addison** · 10-04-2007, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by DWiens421

1. Joe Louis
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchell
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Thomas Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Felix Trinidad
31. Pipino Cuevas
32. Jim Jefferies
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Alfonso Zamora
48. David Tua
49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong
58. Bob Satterfield
59. Al Hostak
60. Jesus Pimentel
61. Eugene (Cyclone) Hart
62. Lew Jenkins
63. Harry Wills
64. Tom Sharkey
65. Terry McGovern
66. Jersey Joe Walcott
67. Kostya Tszyu
68. Leotis Martin
69. Buddy Baer
70. Donovan (Razor) Ruddock
71. Jose Luis Ramirez
72. Tommy Gomez
73. Jose Napoles
74. Kid McCoy
75. Antonio Esparragoza
76. Ricardo Moreno
77. Evander Holyfield
78. Ike Williams
79. Luis Firpo
80. Ricardo Lopez
81. Humberto Gonzalez
82. Bobby Chacon
83. Jock McAvoy
84. Eduardo Lausse
85. Eder Jofre
86. Charley Burley
87. Mike McCallum
88. Salvador Sanchez
89. Roy Jones Jr.
90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
91. Nigel Benn
92. (Irish) Bob Murphy
93. Paul Berlenbach
94. Battling Torres
95. Chalky Wright
96. George (K.O.) Chaney
97. Andy Ganigan
98. Fred Fulton
99. Ingemar Johansson
100. Charley White

Thanks to dualchamps for the list.

I can't believe he is 25th on the list. He only had 1 title fight that didn't end in a KO victory for him, against Thomas Tate.

I am also downright shocked that he never got knockout of the year at any time.

His KO of Terry Norris was incredible. He threw that punch hard, and FAST. It even looked faster than a regular punch in slow-motion.

Does someone know something I don't about this?

Alexis Arguello is a great puncher, but to have him that far ahead of quite a few of those guys raises this eyebrow. Arguello is like Magnum PI to me.. But I don't think that's what I remember coming away after watching his entire career multiple times.

Alexis could crack - but this is a guy that did his dirty work generally, but not always, late.. Late late.

Arguello had power in the 13th, 14th, and 15th rounds.. I'm not confused about how impressive that is.. But against these names? I don't know..

This list must have something more to do with absolute peak/prime weightclass and all that kind of stuff.. KO% ect. And obviously, a Peter North money shot fired directly into the mouth of an overly nostalgic dinosaur.

**Orange Sneakers** · 10-04-2007, 11:21 PM

Nigel Benn at 91 is ridiculous

Julian Jackson's punching power: Underrated?