How good could Holyfield of been had he LIKED to run?

[ForemanCrossArm]

Have always heard he hated and barely ran. Avoided it almost as much as Liston did.. Had he been more into running how much better could he have been?

I think running translates into great champion as much as anything. Benn is the key example here.

[Verstyle]

Hmmm,he wouldnt have to depend on his heart and will to get passed those rounds when tired.That I know. I think he would have done alot more knowing he doesnt have to depend on heart and determination to win while exhausted.

[Thread Stealer]

i do not know.

how good of a heavywweight would he have been without being chemically enhanced?

[shawn_]

where did you hear this? I have always heard Holyfeild was the hardest training fighter since Rocky Marciano...

[ForemanCrossArm]

I think he would've won Bowe I, probably knocked out Foreman (which would've been a pretty impressive feat), not lost ALL (keyword all) of those bouts prior to Tyson.

I think it mattered more earlier in his career when he was lighter, ala early-mid 90's. I think he might've pulled out that first fight with Lewis, too, had he had more endurance.

Probably what keeps him from being an ATG. At the same time, it might be what has extended his career, as the wear & tear on legs from running at 230 lbs. is probably pretty intense. Just look at football players, they usually burn out at 30-ish.

[Verstyle]

I think he would've won Bowe I, probably knocked out Foreman (which would've been a pretty impressive feat), not lost ALL (keyword all) of those bouts prior to Tyson.

I think it mattered more earlier in his career when he was lighter, ala early-mid 90's. I think he might've pulled out that first fight with Lewis, too, had he had more endurance.

Probably what keeps him from being an ATG. At the same time, it might be what has extended his career, as the wear & tear on legs from running at 230 lbs. is probably pretty intense. Just look at football players, they usually burn out at 30-ish.

Holyfield IS an all-time great.

[ForemanCrossArm]

where did you hear this? I have always heard Holyfeild was the hardest training fighter since Rocky Marciano...

He trains hard, he just don't be running.

Bruno trained harder than hercules, but he didn't spend enough time in the ring and it showed.

Leon Spinks barely trained outside of the ring and it didn't really show until later in his career.

[-Antonio-]

Running isn't the key to success. You can get great stamina from things other than running. I think the lapses he went through in his heavyweight fights where he would have no energy is from his steroid use.

[AntonTheMeh]

i do not know.

how good of a heavywweight would he have been without being chemically enhanced?

zing

[ForemanCrossArm]

Holyfield IS an all-time great.

I can't put anyone in the 1990's in ATG status.. Aside from Roy. Possibly Sweat Pea.