Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s crappy level of opposition

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  • Unseen
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    #11
    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
    Arturo Gatti - Gatti was on the downside of his career. Many PBF detractors called him "shot". But AG then stopped an undefeated Euro champion in his next bout.

    Sharmba Mitchell - Sharmba was so terrible as a PBF opponent, that he had lost twice in the previous ten years. Both times to Kostya Tszyu. He was so terrible as an opponent that Paul Williams decided to fight him A YEAR after Floyd did.

    Zab Judah - He was so terrible as an opponent that even after fifteen months of inactivity, Miguel Cotto STILL called Zab his toughest opponent and his best win. Zab was so terrible as an opponent that he is CURRENTLY ranked as the #5 welterweight by RING magazine. And #9 by WBA. And #5 by IBF. And #9 by WBO.

    Carlos Baldomir - He was so terrible as an opponent that Vernon Forrest chose to fight him a year after Floyd. And at a higher weight. And said that Baldomir was tough. And Vernon couldn't hurt Carlos. Over 12 rounds.


    Oscar DeLaHoya - He was so terrible as an opponent, and so washed up that Ricky Hatton wants to fight Oscar next summer - a year after Floyd fought Oscar. Oscar was so terrible as an opponent that he is CURRENTLY ranked as the #3 JMW in the world. After losing to Mayweather. And ranked # 1 by WBC. And #1 by WBO.

    And previously, PBF fought guys such as

    Castillo - a guy who was 5 years and several losses younger than the version that Ricky Hatton faced.

    Corrales - A guy who was ranked top 5 p4p, and went on to get wins over Casamayor, Freitas and Castillo. A top 2-3 guy at LW for YEARS.

    Chavez - a perennial top 5 lightweight.

    Manfredy - a perennial top five SFW

    Corley - a guy who fought Witter for the title last year.

    The weak link of opposition on this list is Arturo Gatti....and PBF wiped his ass with Gatti.

    who has gatti beaten? more famous for his wars with ward who isn't elite or anything. you can't say he is great.

    who has zab judah beaten? did his last fight impress you?

    baldomir is tough but he lost how many? tough doesn't mean you're a winner. tough means you can take hits. i think giving hits wins fights...

    rankings mean crap for oscar atm considering how inactive he is. if he was more active perhaps he would look worse. no way oscar was at his peak... i think oscar challenged hatton first actually.

    he has fought guys on the verge of good or a prospect to be great.

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    • SpeedKillz
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      #12
      Originally posted by Naps
      I don't undderstand your obsession with PBF. It's getting a bit creepy now.
      just sounds like being a fan to me... but what do i know right?? im a floyd fan too so i must be delusional...right?

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      • DIOS DOMINICANO
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        #13
        Originally posted by Unseen
        who has gatti beaten? more famous for his wars with ward who isn't elite or anything. you can't say he is great.who has zab judah beaten? did his last fight impress you?

        baldomir is tough but he lost how many? tough doesn't mean you're a winner. tough means you can take hits. i think giving hits wins fights...

        rankings mean crap for oscar atm considering how inactive he is. if he was more active perhaps he would look worse. no way oscar was at his peak... i think oscar challenged hatton first actually.

        he has fought guys on the verge of good or a prospect to be great.
        Unseen.... can you even read?? What did I SPECIFICALLY say about Gatti?

        What is your malfunction?

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        • moofo
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          #14
          It is delusional when you can't accept or direct criticism at the fighter you support.
          There is no sych thing as the perfect fighter.
          This is the biggest problem I have with people like Double D.
          They are blind to Floyds faults and his padded record from the last 4-5 years.
          He has won all his fights but he hasn't been fighting top fighters ib their respective primes.
          This has nothing to do with Hatton either as Hatton has not faced top fighters in their primes either.
          Hatton V PBF will be the first time Either have faced fighters at the top of their game.
          Understand ?

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          • DIOS DOMINICANO
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            #15
            Originally posted by kayjay
            I think Mitchell is as weak an opponent as Gatti. I never understood giving Floyd hell over the list of opponents, especially since he beat DLH at a higher weight. BUT, you shouldn't turn it around and make that three-year period in Floyd's career look outstanding. It wasn't. It was ok, no real big wins it that time but no real disappointing performances either.
            Well, Sharmba's career highs exceed gatti's. So I give him more cred than gatti.

            Sharmba didn't lose to bustas, and he has wins over Lovemore Ndou, ben tackie, and cool vince phillips.

            Hattonettes wet their panties that Ricki beat Phillips. After Sharmba had beaten him.

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              #16
              Originally posted by kayjay
              I think Mitchell is as weak an opponent as Gatti. I never understood giving Floyd hell over the list of opponents, especially since he beat DLH at a higher weight. BUT, you shouldn't turn it around and make that three-year period in Floyd's career look outstanding. It wasn't. It was ok, no real big wins it that time but no real disappointing performances either.
              that is true.

              mayweather is smaller than oscar and does not belong at 154.

              what happened when oscar moved up to 160? he lost to sturm and hopkins.

              what happened when winky moved up to 170? he lost to hopkins.

              what happened when foster moved up past lhw? everyone decent beat him.

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              • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                #17
                Originally posted by moofo
                It is delusional when you can't accept or direct criticism at the fighter you support.
                There is no sych thing as the perfect fighter.
                This is the biggest problem I have with people like Double D.
                They are blind to Floyds faults and his padded record from the last 4-5 years.
                He has won all his fights but he hasn't been fighting top fighters ib their respective primes.
                This has nothing to do with Hatton either as Hatton has not faced top fighters in their primes either.
                Hatton V PBF will be the first time Either have faced fighters at the top of their game.Understand ?
                When was Castillo at the top of his game?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                  Unseen.... can you even read?? What did I SPECIFICALLY say about Gatti?

                  What is your malfunction?
                  as a forum poster i can raise whatever issue i want. and i made that comment about gatti that he aint nothing special.

                  now please highlight my other points and discuss.

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                  • moofo
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                    #19
                    And Floyds achievements below 140 have no standing on his current stock as he doesn't fight there anymore and hasn't done for a long time.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by moofo
                      It is delusional when you can't accept or direct criticism at the fighter you support.
                      There is no sych thing as the perfect fighter.
                      This is the biggest problem I have with people like Double D.
                      They are blind to Floyds faults and his padded record from the last 4-5 years.
                      He has won all his fights but he hasn't been fighting top fighters ib their respective primes.
                      This has nothing to do with Hatton either as Hatton has not faced top fighters in their primes either.
                      Hatton V PBF will be the first time Either have faced fighters at the top of their game.
                      Understand ?
                      Carefull now. Zab Judah was in his prime and he was as ready as ever. He was younger, faster and had more punching power then floyd but floyd had more brain power.
                      Baldomir- he was as prime as it gets. Not unbeatable but he has been undefeated since 1997 before losing to floyd with victories over judah and gatti, two guys who were supposed to beat him.

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