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  • Azteca
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    #161
    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
    This post is interesting. What does Addison specifically see in N'dou's fifth round? Addison says N'dou showed how not to fight Mayweather, but uses this clip to show how Hatton will get it done. I referred to the N'dou fight for reasons already stated. Addison, evidently sees something else here. Can anyone provide an explanation?
    Meh. Mayweather let him off the hook for the first minute of the round. N'dou came storming back for a little bit during this time. Only problem is, N'dou is a guy who can hurt you at the end of his punches. Not an inside fighter because of how wide and innacurate he is when he fights inside. You can tell by just that clip that he is not an inside fighter.

    Hatton is a different kind of animal.

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      #162
      Originally posted by Azteca
      Meh. Mayweather let him off the hook for the first minute of the round. N'dou came storming back for a little bit during this time. Only problem is, N'dou is a guy who can hurt you at the end of his punches. Not an inside fighter because of how wide and innacurate he is when he fights inside. You can tell by just that clip that he is not an inside fighter.

      Hatton is a different kind of animal.
      Hey, I just bounced back from your thread. Great starter there Azteca.

      But regarding, the fight: We agree that relentless inside pressure is key for Hatton. I think that's obvious. But, Addison has made numerous comments but keeps his specific theory close to the vest. He has said that he sees something specific and it will be definitive for Hatton. It intrigued me. Do you have any ideas as to what it is that he may be seeing? My theory to defeat Floyd's shell is the left hook to the body until Floyd's right comes down, then left hook to the chin.

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        #163
        Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
        Hey, I just bounced back from your thread. Great starter there Azteca.

        But regarding, the fight: We agree that relentless inside pressure is key for Hatton. I think that's obvious. But, Addison has made numerous comments but keeps his specific theory close to the vest. He has said that he sees something specific and it will be definitive for Hatton. It intrigued me. Do you have any ideas as to what it is that he may be seeing? My theory to defeat Floyd's shell was the left hook to the body until Floyd's right comes down, then left hook to the chin.
        Me and Addison discussed this over PM. I deleted my inbox. Addison is going to have to dig it up for you. We both made some good points.

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          #164
          Originally posted by Azteca
          Meh. Mayweather let him off the hook for the first minute of the round. N'dou came storming back for a little bit during this time. Only problem is, N'dou is a guy who can hurt you at the end of his punches. Not an inside fighter because of how wide and innacurate he is when he fights inside. You can tell by just that clip that he is not an inside fighter.

          Hatton is a different kind of animal.
          It will be the Philly shell that will end mayweather in this fight. Watch every single Mayweather fight and when the opponent starts to unload Floyd tucks his chin and begins to go totally defensive. He doesn't open up until there is a break in the onslaught.


          He is not a true counter puncher in that sense. A true counter puncher punches with his opponent, Floyd on the other hand likes to punch when he feels safe. There is a difference.


          That begs one question. If Ndou can close on Mayweather and throw 15 unanswered punches, what can Hatton do?


          Get the drift.


          I think his fans aren't analyzing this fight correctly. They assume Hatton won't get close enough to floyd, but what they are not seeing is that many fighters with less closing ability have managed to get close-they just weren't effective when they got close.

          Hatton doesn't need the head shot to be effective. He will rip to the body all night and Floyd is gonna feel it. Castillo never left his feet in an entire career, shot or not, That kind of body attack will hurt anyone alive, including the great Floyd Mayweather.


          You can't shoulder roll out of a vicious body shot!

          Hatton tko10 or sooner!

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            #165
            Originally posted by Easton Assassin

            Hatton doesn't need the head shot to be effective. He will rip to the body all night and Floyd is gonna feel it. Castillo never left his feet in an entire career, shot or not, That kind of body attack will hurt anyone alive, including the great Floyd Mayweather.


            You can't shoulder roll out of a vicious body shot!

            Hatton tko10 or sooner!
            Round 1: Floyd comes out and stands in the middle of the ring. Fairly flat-footed. He is trying to gauge Hatton's strength and speed, and is tuning up his defense. Ricky is catious and throws less than usual. He has a good measure of respect for PBF's speed and counter-punching. He won't get reckless. Ricky was busier. Round 1 Hatton.

            Rd 2: Ricky picks up the pace, and so does Floyd. Mayweather still isn't in form, and they fight a fairly busy but close round. Hatton eats some uppercuts and counter-rights. But RH is determined because he knows that he has to establish his fight. They may end up near/on the ropes. It is becoming clear now to Rick that he is not the stronger man in the ring. Close round. Either way. Probably Hatton on activity.

            Rds 3/4: Mayweather is busier than in the first coupla rounds. He is landing consistently hard shots now, and blocking Hatton's increasingly wide shots. On some occasions, RH comes inside, clinches and tries to maul. PBF is retaliating by pushing off with the elbow/forearm, and the ref warns him. The first signs of wear appear on Rick's face. Rds 3/4 are Mayweather.

            Rds 5/6/7: It is starting to get a bit ugly, and the outcome of the fight is clear now. Hatton, unable to muscle Floyd, and with a considerable skill/speed disadvantage, is getting hit too much. Ricky, being a gamer, rallies. But his face is starting to open badly, and he hasn't solved the puzzle of how to get to Floyd consistently. Perhaps RH takes one of these rounds, but this middle part of the fight is where FMJ really pulls away.

            Rds 8/9: Very ugly. Very. At times, it looks "sixth-round-of-the-Gatti-fight-esque". Ricky, uncharacteristically, is fatiguing and his face is a mess. The ref and/or ring doctor has already taken a good look. Floyd puts his foot on the gas. He stays on the perimeter but is launching hard, straight stuff.

            Hatton's corner, in a smart decision to preserve their fighter's health and psyche, elects not to send him out for round 10.

            Mayweather TKO 9 Hatton.

            Bet the farm.

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              #166
              Originally posted by Easton Assassin
              It will be the Philly shell that will end mayweather in this fight. Watch every single Mayweather fight and when the opponent starts to unload Floyd tucks his chin and begins to go totally defensive. He doesn't open up until there is a break in the onslaught.


              He is not a true counter puncher in that sense. A true counter puncher punches with his opponent, Floyd on the other hand likes to punch when he feels safe. There is a difference.


              That begs one question. If Ndou can close on Mayweather and throw 15 unanswered punches, what can Hatton do?


              Get the drift.


              I think his fans aren't analyzing this fight correctly. They assume Hatton won't get close enough to floyd, but what they are not seeing is that many fighters with less closing ability have managed to get close-they just weren't effective when they got close.

              Hatton doesn't need the head shot to be effective. He will rip to the body all night and Floyd is gonna feel it. Castillo never left his feet in an entire career, shot or not, That kind of body attack will hurt anyone alive, including the great Floyd Mayweather.


              You can't shoulder roll out of a vicious body shot!

              Hatton tko10 or sooner!
              So you agree with me that defeating the shell is the key? And, you are exactly right, Mayweather goes into that shell instinctively when he feels threatened and sometimes...sometimes..he gets lazy with the right guard. See N'dou.

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                #167
                Originally posted by Easton Assassin
                It will be the Philly shell that will end mayweather in this fight. Watch every single Mayweather fight and when the opponent starts to unload Floyd tucks his chin and begins to go totally defensive. He doesn't open up until there is a break in the onslaught.


                He is not a true counter puncher in that sense. A true counter puncher punches with his opponent, Floyd on the other hand likes to punch when he feels safe. There is a difference.


                That begs one question. If Ndou can close on Mayweather and throw 15 unanswered punches, what can Hatton do?


                Get the drift.


                I think his fans aren't analyzing this fight correctly. They assume Hatton won't get close enough to floyd, but what they are not seeing is that many fighters with less closing ability have managed to get close-they just weren't effective when they got close.

                Hatton doesn't need the head shot to be effective. He will rip to the body all night and Floyd is gonna feel it. Castillo never left his feet in an entire career, shot or not, That kind of body attack will hurt anyone alive, including the great Floyd Mayweather.


                You can't shoulder roll out of a vicious body shot!

                Hatton tko10 or sooner!
                The Ndou fight was at 135...and Castillo was shot when Hatton fought him. Cotto is a better body puncher than Hatton. Only one guy had success against Mayweather going to the body. Castillo, and Mayweather had a torn rotator cuff and it was still a close fight. Everybody planned to get close to Floyd, and they failed. Judah and Oscar are better and stronger than Hatton. Hatton won't be punishing anyone.

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                • Wiley Hyena
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                  Round 1: Floyd comes out and stands in the middle of the ring. Fairly flat-footed. He is trying to gauge Hatton's strength and speed, and is tuning up his defense. Ricky is catious and throws less than usual. He has a good measure of respect for PBF's speed and counter-punching. He won't get reckless. Ricky was busier. Round 1 Hatton.

                  Rd 2: Ricky picks up the pace, and so does Floyd. Mayweather still isn't in form, and they fight a fairly busy but close round. Hatton eats some uppercuts and counter-rights. But RH is determined because he knows that he has to establish his fight. They may end up near/on the ropes. It is becoming clear now to Rick that he is not the stronger man in the ring. Close round. Either way. Probably Hatton on activity.

                  Rds 3/4: Mayweather is busier than in the first coupla rounds. He is landing consistently hard shots now, and blocking Hatton's increasingly wide shots. On some occasions, RH comes inside, clinches and tries to maul. PBF is retaliating by pushing off with the elbow/forearm, and the ref warns him. The first signs of wear appear on Rick's face. Rds 3/4 are Mayweather.

                  Rds 5/6/7: It is starting to get a bit ugly, and the outcome of the fight is clear now. Hatton, unable to muscle Floyd, and with a considerable skill/speed disadvantage, is getting hit too much. Ricky, being a gamer, rallies. But his face is starting to open badly, and he hasn't solved the puzzle of how to get to Floyd consistently. Perhaps RH takes one of these rounds, but this middle part of the fight is where FMJ really pulls away.

                  Rds 8/9: Very ugly. Very. At times, it looks "sixth-round-of-the-Gatti-fight-esque". Ricky, uncharacteristically, is fatiguing and his face is a mess. The ref and/or ring doctor has already taken a good look. Floyd puts his foot on the gas. He stays on the perimeter but is launching hard, straight stuff.

                  Hatton's corner, in a smart decision to preserve their fighter's health and psyche, elects not to send him out for round 10.

                  Mayweather TKO 9 Hatton.

                  Bet the farm.
                  Oh, hello Dios. Glad to see you've come out of your state of shock over the Taylor debacle. Remember I told you so!

                  Ok....will read your post and reply in a moment, if necessary.
                  Edit: Read it. Disagree with it. Kind of reminds me of your opinions on how Taylor was going to dismantle Pavlik. But, you are of course entitled to your opinion.
                  Last edited by Wiley Hyena; 10-02-2007, 09:48 PM.

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                    #169
                    If Floyd wants to hurt Ricky he can. But he's risking injuring his hand. If he cares to just win he will outbox him.

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                      #170
                      Heres how he'll do it= Right in the back of the head too.

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