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  • #51
    Originally posted by DiegoFuego View Post
    Of course there needs to be a rematch. Taylor lost that fight himself. He was way superior to Pavlik as anybody with a brain predicted he would be. Credit that loss to Taylor taking his foot off the gas and Manny Steward for a terrible gameplan. Why try outboxing the guy when you can clearly knock him out?
    yeah pav's chin cracked like an egg shell. taylor tried to press on and finish the job but was too anxious and inaccuracy lost the fight for him. When Pav nearly got bodied you could see what his thoughts were "I'm gonna get ****in decked". Taylor could have done it.
    Last edited by Valgas; 09-30-2007, 01:33 PM.

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    • #52
      i say a rematch IS called for due to the fact both fighters showed they CAN beat the other...

      they had each other hurt and knocked down (well taylor go knocked up but you know what i mean).

      it was a close tough fight the first time and who knows who could win the second...it could be pavlik or it could be taylor...

      if taylor DID win it would turn into an AMAZING trilogy for sure.

      it could very well turn into something as great as gatti/ward...

      but taylor would have to win...

      i cant really say who will win a rematch its like deciding ahead of time who would win corrales/castillo II after seeing the first one where each had their moments of greatness...

      i think taylor and pavlik should have a tune-up fight first before fighting each other again.

      and to those here who think taylor shouldnt work with manny anymore is crazy.

      Manny knows his stuff and to my surprise he had taylor actually looking good in a dominately offensive minded fight.

      when taylor was the aggressor and using his jab and not allowing kelly to set his feet he was doing great and knocked pavlik down...indeed he looked like he had like about 10 cups of coffee before the fight but he was winning...

      when he went on the defense he was losing...

      so maybe thats the key to beat pavlik...use your jab...get inside of good combos...get back outside...work the jab more to keep him away...dont let him get set...

      that was working well for taylor in the first few rounds...

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      • #53
        Originally posted by frankpaganini View Post
        i say a rematch IS called for due to the fact both fighters showed they CAN beat the other...

        they had each other hurt and knocked down (well taylor go knocked up but you know what i mean).

        it was a close tough fight the first time and who knows who could win the second...it could be pavlik or it could be taylor...

        if taylor DID win it would turn into an AMAZING trilogy for sure.

        it could very well turn into something as great as gatti/ward...

        but taylor would have to win...

        i cant really say who will win a rematch its like deciding ahead of time who would win corrales/castillo II after seeing the first one where each had their moments of greatness...

        i think taylor and pavlik should have a tune-up fight first before fighting each other again.

        and to those here who think taylor shouldnt work with manny anymore is crazy.

        Manny knows his stuff and to my surprise he had taylor actually looking good in a dominately offensive minded fight.

        when taylor was the aggressor and using his jab and not allowing kelly to set his feet he was doing great and knocked pavlik down...indeed he looked like he had like about 10 cups of coffee before the fight but he was winning...

        when he went on the defense he was losing...

        so maybe thats the key to beat pavlik...use your jab...get inside of good combos...get back outside...work the jab more to keep him away...dont let him get set...

        that was working well for taylor in the first few rounds...
        sure was... what happened?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Valgas View Post
          sure was... what happened?
          if you watched the fight he got TKO'd...

          i hope this isnt a shot at sarcasm...

          taylor did come out fighting well and after the second round kelly looked ready to go down...he actually did knock him down in the 2nd...and for nearly the rest of the round almost had pavlik stopped (another referee may have indeed stopped it after seeing pavlik so whobblely).

          but im glad this ref is the kind that lets them fight.

          he mounted a great comeback and taylor didnt listen to manny when he told taylor, "when you get to the ropes get out immediately"...he didnt do that and kelly took full advantage of that in the 7th pinning him against the coner/ropes and whailing away...

          the fight was stopped as taylor was hurt badly without having anywhere to go (couldnt fall down due to being pinned) so before any real serious injury was inflicted the referee (smoger) stopped the fight.

          end of story...

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          • #55
            Im not sure about IMMEDIATE rematch, but definatly a rematch in the near future.

            Both put in a great display. Either man could of one.

            Basically Taylor desrves a rematch on the fact he almost had Palvic out in the 2nd, and fought well until he got KO'd.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
              anyone who says there shouldn't be a rematch is not thinking clearly
              Agreed.

              But I've noticed many of them are Pavlik nuthuggers. They wouldn't want to see him have to face an opponent who could come close to knocking him out again.



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              • #57
                Everyone wants to see a rematch but for some reason I think Taylor is will go tune up first. He needs to get his head straight again.
                Most of you don't understand that the way Taylor lost. That kind of loss has a huge psychological effect on you.

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                • #58
                  Hopefully we have another great matchup with Taylor winning and than we can have an oh so great trilogy.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
                    Agreed.

                    But I've noticed many of them are Pavlik nuthuggers. They wouldn't want to see him have to face an opponent who could come close to knocking him out again.
                    This fight proved that Pav's chin is fragile and that he can barely handle fast, evasive and precise punchers. Jermain had the speed that Pav couldnt handle but his accuracy and judgement deminished quickly after nearly bodying Pav. Taylor did everything right at the beginning, getting off the ropes and taking it back to the center where he could open up with power shots that were just too wild.


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                    • #60
                      I don't know about the rematch being made immediatly.. I think Taylor should have a tune up fight and Pavlik should fight another champ but i would LOVE to see them fight again!!

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