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  • Fox McCloud
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    #61
    Originally posted by C.Y.
    Pavlik hasnt fougt against an elite fighter period




    Pavlik's last 5 Opponents
    Miranda - overrated power puncher with no technical skills
    Zertuche - bum
    Lenord Pierre - who??
    Bronco Mckart- great fighter in his hay day, obviously old fighter
    Zuniga - bum


    Taylor's last 5 Opponents
    Spinks - former undisputed welterweight champ, jun mid champ and a slick south paw
    Ouma - tough as nails former soldier and champion
    winky - defensive masterminded southpaw, champion, hof
    hopkins - past his prime but still game undispusted middleweight champ, hof, boxing genius

    i rest my case

    for those questioning taylor's stamina
    pavlik hasn't even gone past 9 rounds
    shouldn't there be questions for his stamina in the late rounds??
    Pretty good post that explains why I think Taylor will win this one...

    Pavlik's win over Miranda was a good win... but he is not a ****ing world beater.

    Jermain's win over Cory Spinks was the win over the bigger name that night.

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    • MightyMikeA
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      #62
      Originally posted by GattiFan
      Look...

      I like both Guys.

      But seriously.......Whats Pavliks "Plan B"

      Lets just say, Pavs rolls in there and starts bombing away at Taylor, but Taylor gets away and seems to not fold up like the accordian everyone is saying he is...and pavlik starts getting timed and countered?

      Hmmmm? Anyone?

      I'll tell you.....he gets KTFO

      Cause hes a hard hitting club fighter. He brings nothing else to the table but the slugger mentality and skill set.



      While I love that...Taylor can slug if he has too, AND Taylor can box if he has to.

      Go back and watch some fights where the huge punching but lesser skilled guy cant put away the boxer.
      A mistake people are making is judging Pavlik's fighting style based solely on the Miranda fight. Against Edison, he had to do what he had do to and that was come straight forward and push Edison back and he succeeded. Pavlik is a more versatile fighter than this and I think he's going to give Taylor many more looks than people think he's capable of. A mistake Steward and JT are going to make is expecting Pavlik to bring it the same exact way as he did against Miranda is this is going to cost them if they do. Pavlik is more than able to switch up speeds and throw punches from a variety of angles as he did against Zertuche. Pavlik has a pretty varying arsenal of punches including a sweeting left uppercut which I love. It's a very unorthodox punch I think it's going to work marvels against Taylor who tends to drop that right hand, especially after the jab...then BAM!! I"m gonna be looking for that punch......

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      • MightyMikeA
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        #63
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        Pretty good post that explains why I think Taylor will win this one...

        Pavlik's win over Miranda was a good win... but he is not a ****ing world beater.

        Jermain's win over Cory Spinks was the win over the bigger name that night.
        That's not a good post. Anybody can pick and choose info they want to display like so....

        Taylor's last 5 opponents......


        Spinks-Knocked out by a smallish Welterweight in Zab Judah and his 154lb. title fight against Karmazin was crappy, disputed and could've gone either way.

        Ouma-Tough 154 LBER who was almost taken out by Marco Rubio...anyone remember that fight or his snoozer with garbage fighter Sechew Powell?

        Wright-A defensive fighter who can't break an egg and showed in his last fight with Hopkins that he's getting long in the tooth as well.

        Hopkins was 40 man c'monnnnn now and he won that first fight and drew the second.

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        • Kball15
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          #64
          Pavlik hasnt fougt against an elite fighter period




          Pavlik's last 5 Opponents
          Miranda - overrated power puncher with no technical skills
          Zertuche - bum
          Lenord Pierre - who??
          Bronco Mckart- great fighter in his hay day, obviously old fighter
          Zuniga - bum


          Taylor's last 5 Opponents
          Spinks - former undisputed welterweight champ, jun mid champ and a slick south paw
          Ouma - tough as nails former soldier and champion
          winky - defensive masterminded southpaw, champion, hof
          hopkins - past his prime but still game undispusted middleweight champ, hof, boxing genius

          i rest my case

          for those questioning taylor's stamina
          pavlik hasn't even gone past 9 rounds
          shouldn't there be questions for his stamina in the late rounds??
          Lets take a look at the 5 fighters TAYLOR fought BEFORE he challenged for the title:
          Edouard - Tough guy, weak skills. I actually commend Taylor for stopping him how he did
          Joppy - Joppy was FADED.
          Martinez- Balogna fight
          Bunema - ???
          Rios - ???

          That list ABSOLUTELY HAILS in comparison to PAVLIKS pre-title wins. And Guess what, Taylor was able to win.

          And Pavliks stamina shouldnt be anywhere NEAR in question, because he's slugging it out with Edison Miranda in the 7th round of a war, still throwing 70+ a round. In the Zuniga fight as well.

          Taylor tired badly late in his fight against Hopkins... from what? being tense? that shows a lot of petential for fading in a grueling fight like this will be

          And whats MOST pathetic about Taylors RECENT last 5, is there is an argument that he lost 4 OF HIS LAST 5!!!! HOW REDICULOUS IS THAT!!!! and there's a STRONG argument that he lost 3 of his last 5

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          • Hitman932
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            #65
            somebody called fulgencio zuniga a bum... theyre the bum

            zuniga got knocked out by pavlik at middle, stepped up 8 pounds to super middle and knocked out victor oganov who was 26-0 w/ 26 KO's

            mckart has won 3 straight fights since being knocked out by pavlik (only time in his career) and recently defeated enrique ornelas for the NABO middleweight title.

            taylor fought cory spinks... a genuine piece of **** and bona fide 147 pounder

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            • EliteSoldier
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              #66
              Originally posted by Hitman932
              man u just sound like a dumbass with every pavlik prediction you make.

              yeah taylor is just gonna up and fight southpaw and win cause of it..lol.. thats the dumbest **** ive heard it awhile. first off taylor wouldnt know what the hell he was doing and he get cold****ed with a straight right hand 2 minutes into the fight.

              also, pavlik is way more ambidextrous than taylor will ever be. pavlik throws a left handed lead uppercut... taylor has nothing like it in his repetoire. if either guy was gonna fight lefty it would be pavlik not taylor. pavlik fights like a converted southpaw, taylor fights like a guy whos left hand gets tired and goes to sleep.

              anymore absolutely dumbass ideas? maybe we can forward them..

              lol

              "hey manny, i think if you just turn jermain around and make him fight lefthanded that he will win easy cause this one guy told me that orthadox fighters cant handle it, it doesent matter that he wont know what hes doing cause it will be such an earth shattering strategy"

              all this coming from the guy who predicted miranda to eat pavlik alive and called me a racist for predicting the fight 100 percent right
              Originally posted by Hitman932
              somebody called fulgencio zuniga a bum... theyre the bum

              zuniga got knocked out by pavlik at middle, stepped up 8 pounds to super middle and knocked out victor oganov who was 26-0 w/ 26 KO's

              mckart has won 3 straight fights since being knocked out by pavlik (only time in his career) and recently defeated enrique ornelas for the NABO middleweight title.

              taylor fought cory spinks... a genuine piece of **** and bona fide 147 pounder

              Post your ****ing address up online so the whole world can see you *****, this little kid is threatening me in my private messages. I did not threaten this little crackhead at all. Little *****, you won't do it because your a mother ****ing coward. Hide behind a computer you ****ing loser, I'd ****ing kill you in real life you trailor trash piece of ****. Talking **** in private message saying you'd beat my ass with only your left hand, yeah ****ing right coward. Why don't you post your real home address so I can ****ing kill you little kid for talking so much kid. I'll pay the airplane ****ing ticket to kill you with my bare-hands no weapon your ****ing redneck



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              Last edited by EliteSoldier; 09-27-2007, 08:23 PM.

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              • SkillspayBills
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                #67
                They know what I know, Taylor is going to win.

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                • Ray  Ray
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Hitman932
                  somebody called fulgencio zuniga a bum... theyre the bum

                  zuniga got knocked out by pavlik at middle, stepped up 8 pounds to super middle and knocked out victor oganov who was 26-0 w/ 26 KO'smckart has won 3 straight fights since being knocked out by pavlik (only time in his career) and recently defeated enrique ornelas for the NABO middleweight title.

                  taylor fought cory spinks... a genuine piece of **** and bona fide 147 pounder
                  The fight was stopped. He never has been ko. Get your facts straight.

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                  • EliteSoldier
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr
                    The fight was stopped. He never has been ko. Get your facts straight.
                    Watch out, he's going to kick your ass with his left hook/sarcasm. Hitman's a joke user, who likes to start **** online. If he was standing right next to me or lived in my state. I'd ****ing kill him for being such a god damn jack ass. He sent me a message saying he's going to slit my n$@ger neck, the joke is I'm not even black.

                    I guess he thinks anyone who thinks Taylor is going to win must be black.
                    Last edited by EliteSoldier; 09-27-2007, 08:36 PM.

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                    • Boxing_Girl23
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                      #70
                      I hope Kelly Pavlik KO's Taylor the way Darnell Wilson KO'ed Nwoodo
                      Jermain 'Bad Decisions' Taylor is going down!

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