Tszyu - Mayweather

[SkillspayBills]

Me wonders if Floyd ever challenged Tszyu?

I think they were going to fight after Hatton, not to sure about that though.

[RodBarker]

KT fought no elite in prime fighters and had no superfights ,,, biggest win a really early career Judah and a washed up Chavez , there were reasons why he never fought ODH Mosley etc and it had nothing to do with those guys ducking him that was all bull**** , I was there when he fought Leija and Jessie more than held his own and at times showed KT some boxing lessons , Leija lost because he was way too small , Hector Lopez showed why Phillips won and Phillips is no brawler he is a straight up boxer , he won because he was a welter and to big for KT ,,, Floyd is bigger than KT and would win easy as KT is very flat footed and moves in straight lines thats why Ricky won , because KT is always in front , he was a puncher that would not get on Mayweather ,,,, besides look at KTs resume , he never fought anybody for the reputation he has , good fighter but over rated as far as the ODH and Mosleys go , KT needed a superfight for his legacy and never had one .

[Wiley Hyena]

KT fought no elite in prime fighters and had no superfights ,,, biggest win a really early career Judah and a washed up Chavez , there were reasons why he never fought ODH Mosley etc and it had nothing to do with those guys ducking him that was all bull**** , I was there when he fought Leija and Jessie more than held his own and at times showed KT some boxing lessons , Leija lost because he was way too small , Hector Lopez showed why Phillips won and Phillips is no brawler he is a straight up boxer , he won because he was a welter and to big for KT ,,, Floyd is bigger than KT and would win easy as KT is very flat footed and moves in straight lines thats why Ricky won , because KT is always in front , he was a puncher that would not get on Mayweather ,,,, besides look at KTs resume , he never fought anybody for the reputation he has , good fighter but over rated as far as the ODH and Mosleys go , KT needed a superfight for his legacy and never had one .

This post is complete ****.
1. Kostya Tszyu's record is now 31-2 with 25 KOs; and fought elite fighters his whole career, including Vernon Forrest in the 91 amatuer world championships. He whipped Vernon's ass and won that fight, by the way.
2. Leija did not lose to Kostya because he was too small...it was a 6th round TKO because Tszyu broke his ear drum.
2. Hector Lopez got his ass whipped for 12 rounds and lost that fight.
3. Judah was 27-0 when Kostya knocked his ass out in the 2nd.
4. Urkal was 28-0 when Kostya whipped his ass for 12 rounds and won that fight..
5. Tszyu finished Julio Ceasar Chavez in the 6th by TKO. This was in 2000 and Chavez was 103-4-2 at the time.
6. Tszyu whipped Livingstone Brample's ass for 12 rounds and won that fight.
7. Tszyu TKOd Sharmba Mitchell twice, the last fight Mitchell went down 4 times.
8. Tszyu TKOd Angel Hernandez in the 7th.
9. Tszyu knocked out Corey Johnson in the 4th.
10. Tszyu beat Rafeal Ruelas, who was 52-3, by TKO in the 9th.
11. Tszyu knocked out Jan Bergman in the 6th round. Bergman was 32-0 at the time.
12. Tszyu beat Hugo Pineda by TKO in the 11th round. Pineda was 27-0 at the time.

Tszyu's only loss before Hatton was in 1997. Vince Phillips performed wonders that night and the fight was Ring Magazine's "Upset of the Year".

You want to know why Mosley, Oscar, and Floyd didn't fight Tszyu? Just review the list above for the answer.

[RodBarker]

This post is complete ****.
1. Kostya Tszyu's record is now 31-2 with 25 KOs; and fought elite fighters his whole career, including Vernon Forrest in the 91 amatuer world championships. He whipped Vernon's ass and won that fight, by the way.
2. Leija did not lose to Kostya because he was too small...it was a 6th round TKO because Tszyu broke his ear drum.
2. Hector Lopez got his ass whipped for 12 rounds and lost that fight.
3. Judah was 27-0 when Kostya knocked his ass out in the 12th.
4. Urkal was 28-0 when Kostya whipped his ass for 12 rounds and won that fight.
5. Tszyu finished Julio Ceasar Chavez in the 6th by TKO. This was in 2000 and Chavez was 103-4-2 at the time.
6. Tszyu whipped Livingstone Brample's ass for 12 rounds and won that fight.
7. Tszyu TKOd Sharmba Mitchell twice, the last fight Mitchell went down 4 times.
8. Tszyu TKOd Angel Hernandez in the 7th.
9. Tszyu knocked out Corey Johnson in the 4th.
10. Tszyu beat Rafeal Ruelas, who was 52-3, by TKO in the 9th.
11. Tszyu knocked out Jan Bergman in the 6th round. Bergman was 32-0 at the time.
12. Tszyu beat Hugo Pineda by TKO in the 11th round. Pineda was 27-0 at the time.

Tszyu's only loss before Hatton was in 1997. Vince Phillips performed wonders that night and the fight was Ring Magazine's "Upset of the Year".

You want to know why Mosley, Oscar, and Floyd didn't fight Tszyu? Just review the list above for the answer.

Leija is a lightweight and held is own and made KT look silly at times ,, I was there .

Hector Lopez was robbed , and who was Hector Lopez , Im sure you never saw the fight to say Hector got beat easy which utter bull**** .

Judah was a young upstart whipper snapper , and nearly got KT in the first rnd , if he had of just boxed he may have got it .

Urkal is nothing special just a decent fighter nowhere near elite , Cotto stopped him .

You want to claim JC , mate he was a shadow at the time and was name only , I hate seeing old champs stay to long because its gets thrown in debates like this like it was a big win it was nothing , Chavez was easybeat at the time , he had nothing left after Oscars destruction way earlier .

Bramble another totally shot champ when KT was building his resume .

The next three in your list were lightweights that moved up and they were well shopworn , everyone of them .

Mate KT was a good fighter but he aint no great and ODH and Mosley would beat him and so would Mayweather ,, after Phillips KT never went near another welter .

Tell me if he is so great why didnt he fight Phillips again to redeem himself , he lost his title by stoppage and never seeks a rematch with the only guy to beat him at the time , even though Phillips had the title and offered it ,, to the day KT retired Phillips wanted to fight him again , I know why do he didnt want it do you ?

[j]

KT fought no elite in prime fighters and had no superfights ,,, biggest win a really early career Judah and a washed up Chavez , there were reasons why he never fought ODH Mosley etc and it had nothing to do with those guys ducking him that was all bull**** , I was there when he fought Leija and Jessie more than held his own and at times showed KT some boxing lessons , Leija lost because he was way too small , Hector Lopez showed why Phillips won and Phillips is no brawler he is a straight up boxer , he won because he was a welter and to big for KT ,,, Floyd is bigger than KT and would win easy as KT is very flat footed and moves in straight lines thats why Ricky won , because KT is always in front , he was a puncher that would not get on Mayweather ,,,, besides look at KTs resume , he never fought anybody for the reputation he has , good fighter but over rated as far as the ODH and Mosleys go , KT needed a superfight for his legacy and never had one .

do you smoke crack? nearly every kostya tszyu fight was with an above average fighter. how many other fighters can you name whose career consisted of better than average fighters from nearly the beginning - not many i bet. and look at how consistant he was. and all the belts he held - i guess he just recieved them as gifts, right?

why the **** talking about kt's record? he fought everybody who stuck around in the division. you are sounding like a straight up ******* with hate for an all time great. see if you can find many pros who agree with you. you know you won't, because people who box for a living have stated their great respect for him as a fighter. he is not a hall of fame level fighter for no reason.

and over rated is one word - overrated.

[RodBarker]

Are you for real , since when is above average fighters suddenly elite ? name me the elite fighters in thier prime that Kosta beat , elite in prime , name one ?

Go and look at Mosley and ODH resumes ,, and then compare them to KT ,,, like I said very good fighter but hyped beyond what was real , he never fought anyone near Mayweather or Mosley or ODH , he fought a lot of washed up guys from lighter weights and guys that are always ranked but a step below the elite , he was knocked out while in his prime by Vince Phillips for crying out loud and then quit on his stool to Hatton , no all time great for mine .

[j]

Are you for real , since when is above average fighters suddenly elite ? name me the elite fighters in thier prime that Kosta beat , elite in prime , name one ?

Go and look at Mosley and ODH resumes ,, and then compare them to KT ,,, like I said very good fighter but hyped beyond what was real , he never fought anyone near Mayweather or Mosley or ODH , he fought a lot of washed up guys from lighter weights and guys that are always ranked but a step below the elite , he was knocked out while in his prime by Vince Phillips for crying out loud and then quit on his stool to Hatton , no all time great for mine .

since when are above average fighters elite? that is a good question because i don't see where it is posted anywhere on this page except on your post.

mayweather has fought many legendary fighters? really? he has fought dlh, and who else? even your own logic does not hold up.

dude, you need to give it up and except the fact that kostya tszyu is a legendary fighter. this is not simply my opinion. it is shared by many fans, pro and amateur boxers, and critics and analysists.

and by the way, tszyu's coach ended the fight with hatton, not kt himself. you must not have read the articles or following the fight closely.

sounds like you are letting your liking and disliking for fighters get in the way of your rational judgement.

[RodBarker]

If you dont know the difference between above average and elite I cant help ,, you should know the difference between prime and faded .

Mayweather fought Prime Castillo , Prime Diego , ODH not prime but Floyd gave him nearly a stone , those three alone would beat anyone on KTs resume at the same weight at the same time KT fought them , Floyd has traversed the divisions faster than anyone , KT stayed in one and was KOed by by the first bigger division guy he fought .

If you look at the Hatton fight KT clearly shakes his head and says no mas , Lewis came with his story afterwards , watch the tape .

I look at fighters for who they beat , what time in their career and how they beat them and at what weight they fought them , oils aint oils mate , the hype never sways me , a fighters resume will speak aloud if you start to really look at it .

Like I said good fighter but this great legend stuff is over the top , Im not bagging KT just putting things into perspective you can rank him anywhere you like , Vince Phillips could not KO a legend that was in his prime , it wasnt a lucky punch either it was a beatdown .

[j]

can you read?

since when are above average fighters elite? that is a good question because i don't see where it is posted anywhere on this page except on your post.

now i just quoted myself so maybe you can tell me what the hell it is you're reading.

and if you don't know the difference between a legendary fighter an an above average fighter, i cannot help you.

just understand that you are one of the few people who think kt is not a legend. you seem to gloss over the fact that nobody else, save one or two people, agree with you. people disagree for a reason.

[RodBarker]

Mate lots of people think KT is not an all time great , but everyone knows he was a top champion and a gentlemen to boot .

Why havent you offered a response to Vince Phillips stopping in him while he was prime , I,ll say it again Vince Phillips could not stop a legend in thier prime ,,, I also think Cal is hyped where many think he is great , thats the thing with people , they dont all think the same , dont let it get to you