De La Hoya: "Hatton Will Surprise Mayweather"

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  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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    #21
    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
    Always having to have the last word. Maybe you ought to look in that mirror.
    Well, I know more about boxing than you do. So that is appropriate.

    It is what it is.

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    • niceguy45
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      #22
      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
      Why wouldn't a re-match against Floyd be in his plans? Just curious.
      like oscar said, he wants to fight someone that wants to fight 12 hard toe to toe battles, like the quartey fight, fights like that won't happen fighting w/pbf, and oscar wants to close his careers with war type fights,
      1 with margarito would be interesting and then against hatton or cotto and call it a career and worry about strippers posting anymore pics on the internet, lol

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        #23
        Originally posted by -Antonio-
        Because you cant just have any jab like I said about Gatti, you have to have a powerful and probably long jab. Hatton's T-rex arms will make this difficult, but his quick foot speed might compensate for that.
        Antonio,

        I have always felt that they guy who beats Floyd would have a long, quick jab :Forrest, Winky, etc. They can control distance and keep FMJ off-balance as you said. I never thought Oscar because in my mind's eye, I never perceived DLH as that jabber-guy. He did better than expected. Although I scored it 8-4.

        Hatton's reach disadvantage coupled with the handspeed deficit means that every time he throws, PBF with counter him like a surgeon. And he is just too small to manhandle Floyd. He'll find that out early in the fight. And he will be brutalized.

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        • El Dominicano
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          #24
          Maybe if Oscar came in at 147 there could have been a toe to toe fight. IDK is it me or is ODLH starting to sound like *****.

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          • Wiley Hyena
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            #25
            Originally posted by -Antonio-
            My reasons for thinking the jab is the most dangerous punch against Floyd are not the same as most.

            Personally I think the jab is so important against Floyd because it sets everything up. Oscar wasn't just snapping Floyd's head back. He was using it to set his punches up. Mayweather's style of fighting relies on balance and reflexes. By throwing a stiff jab (it has to be thrown with intensity, not that measuring jab Gatti was throwing that Floyd ate up) you will make Floyd react by either dipping right or backing up. During that split second Floyd is vulnerable to other punches.

            Now I know for a fact Hatton is better suited than any other fighter Floyd has faced recently at taking advantage of that vulnerable moment. The question is, is his jab good enough to do this? Because you cant just have any jab like I said about Gatti, you have to have a powerful and probably long jab. Hatton's T-rex arms will make this difficult, but his quick foot speed might compensate for that.
            I liked your opinion that Hatton is the most suited to take advantage of the vulnerable moment. And, of course a stiff jab is never to be discounted in any fight. But, after seeing Mayweather's ability to deal with jabs, Oscar's for instance, I'm not sure that is the ultimate weapon for dealing with Floyd. IMO it's going to take someone who is very determined to physically dominate Floyd from the first bell to the last. And, do it by stepping inside and brawling at every chance. IMO it won't take superior boxing skills and footwork to do the job. All it takes is guts, the willingness to get hit, and great stamina. Hatton's got those attributes in spades.

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              #26
              Originally posted by niceguy45
              like oscar said, he wants to fight someone that wants to fight 12 hard toe to toe battles, like the quartey fight, fights like that won't happen fighting w/pbf, and oscar wants to close his careers with war type fights,
              1 with margarito would be interesting and then against hatton or cotto and call it a career and worry about strippers posting anymore pics on the internet, lol
              Nice, you think Oscar is ready for a guy with Margarito's size and activity level at this stage??

              You don't see Oscar fading badly?

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                #27
                Originally posted by El Dominicano
                Maybe if Oscar came in at 147 there could have been a toe to toe fight. IDK is it me or is ODLH starting to sound like *****.
                At this point, Oscar is a panochita. But he is a chocha with $$$, so you gotta deal with him.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                  Nice, you think Oscar is ready for a guy with Margarito's size and activity level at this stage??

                  You don't see Oscar fading badly?
                  i do but margarito's punches are similar to mayorgas(long wide punches) and look what happened....margarito is too one dimensional for oscar, besides is want he wants, he said he wants to fight margarito is the best option for him to test his last stage of his career

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                  • Wiley Hyena
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by El Dominicano
                    Wiley!!

                    1. Oscar isn't picking anyone to win!
                    2. What kinda of promoter pick sides??
                    3. Did Dios say he had Moral High Ground here?!!
                    4. Why are you making yourself look ******?!
                    As to numbers 1-3 - it looks that way to me. Oscar may be promoting the fight but he's definitely let the cat out of the bag on who he wants to win, and it seemed to me that he is favoring Hatton to win (certainly justifying that perception).

                    As to number 4 - I must disagree. But, maybe I misinterpreted what Dios just said about "moral high ground." If so, then...peace.

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                    • Wiley Hyena
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                      Well, I know more about boxing than you do. So that is appropriate.

                      It is what it is.
                      Yeah...right. I can tell that by your posts. LOL Now whose taking the "moral high ground" now?

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