As someone who KNOWS a guy who lost a lot of money betting on Frazier and is a huge racist, people disliked Ali for being a loudmouth on top of being black, but they still respected his skill. For goodness sakes, people respected JOE LOUIS' skill decades earlier!!!!
True or False? If Ali were around today.....
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i think the guys most hating on floyd now are the fans of some of fighters he had bypassed, i dont think ali will have the same problem, he wont be bypassing anyone ...
now for the guys who hate floyd guts, some of them probably will also hate ali, but one thing going for ali, these times they are looking for Boxing Savior and who else can best carry that load ..."the undisputed heavy weight champion"Comment
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I dunno who exactly floyd is bypassing, his last four signed fights are Judah, Baldy, De La Hoya, Hatton, he's not ducking anyone imo, and he's called out mosely and cotto before, mosley only started talking when floyd signed to fight de la hoya, before then he had toothache, cotto didnt want it imo, so i think floyd is taking good fights.i think the guys most hating on floyd now are the fans of some of fighters he had bypassed, i dont think ali will have the same problem, he wont be bypassing anyone ...
now for the guys who hate floyd guts, some of them probably will also hate ali, but one thing going for ali, these times they are looking for Boxing Savior and who else can best carry that load ..."the undisputed heavy weight champion"
Yes Ali would murder any heavyweight right now, not even close.Comment
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I think a lot of them would, but me personally I don't think so. It's not I hate floyd, he is one of the best boxers I have ever seen and totally respect him, but it's the trash talking I don't respect and the way it is done. Yeah Ali used to trash talk and sometimes it was a little disrespectful, but not as much as Floyds. It's all in the manner that it is done, Floyd looks arrogant and like he actually means the things he say's, where as Ali always did it with a wry smile on his face and a little touch of class which makes it much easier to accept.Comment
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Ali was much more disrespectful than floyd, people just to choose to ingore, calling foreman an uncle tom was one of the reasons he had a breakdown wasnt it?I think a lot of them would, but me personally I don't think so. It's not I hate floyd, he is one of the best boxers I have ever seen and totally respect him, but it's the trash talking I don't respect and the way it is done. Yeah Ali used to trash talk and sometimes it was a little disrespectful, but not as much as Floyds. It's all in the manner that it is done, Floyd looks arrogant and like he actually means the things he say's, where as Ali always did it with a wry smile on his face and a little touch of class which makes it much easier to accept.
And calling Joe Frazier a gorilla too, what about that?
Ali was using reverse racism against these guys and rarely gets critizsed for it.Comment
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Yeah I totally agree, but sometimes it's the manner in which you say things. Take when Ali was punching the toy gorilla and saying 'com on gorilla, it's gonna be a thrilla in manilla' although maybe disrespectful and racist he had a smile on his face and you knew it was all for the cameras, Floyd don't give that impression at all. Totally different body language.Ali was much more disrespectful than floyd, people just to choose to ingore, calling foreman an uncle tom was one of the reasons he had a breakdown wasnt it?
And calling Joe Frazier a gorilla too, what about that?
Ali was using reverse racism against these guys and rarely gets critizsed for it.Comment
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i would disagree i think floyd is purely for the cameras, if you take a look at the life ali led, and the life floyd led, you will see when the talking stops, floyd is much more diciplined than ali.Yeah I totally agree, but sometimes it's the manner in which you say things. Take when Ali was punching the toy gorilla and saying 'com on gorilla, it's gonna be a thrilla in manilla' although maybe disrespectful and racist he had a smile on his face and you knew it was all for the cameras, Floyd don't give that impression at all. Totally different body language.
One of them was a drinking, womanising, racist in the nation of islam.
The other is a loudmouth,tactless, flashy, dedicated boxer and father.
Hardly the same league imoComment
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i did not mean to say that floyd ducked anybody, but he did not fought the best jr. welter, or welter before fighting at 154, i dont know the reason, maybe its the money or for other reason ...I dunno who exactly floyd is bypassing, his last four signed fights are Judah, Baldy, De La Hoya, Hatton, he's not ducking anyone imo, and he's called out mosely and cotto before, mosley only started talking when floyd signed to fight de la hoya, before then he had toothache, cotto didnt want it imo, so i think floyd is taking good fights.
Yes Ali would murder any heavyweight right now, not even close.
fighting hatton, is a good start of fighting the guys he is supposed to fight...Comment
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Bingo! Listen to video of Ali, and his rants. Listen to the intonation of his voice, and then come back, and tell me this man was serious.I think a lot of them would, but me personally I don't think so. It's not I hate floyd, he is one of the best boxers I have ever seen and totally respect him, but it's the trash talking I don't respect and the way it is done. Yeah Ali used to trash talk and sometimes it was a little disrespectful, but not as much as Floyds. It's all in the manner that it is done, Floyd looks arrogant and like he actually means the things he say's, where as Ali always did it with a wry smile on his face and a little touch of class which makes it much easier to accept.
The problem with Floyd is that he is serious, and not only that, he is delusional.Comment
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Who was the best welter he didnt fight at that time?i did not mean to say that floyd ducked anybody, but he did not fought the best jr. welter, or welter before fighting at 154, i dont know the reason, maybe its the money or for other reason ...
fighting hatton, is a good start of fighting the guys he is supposed to fight...
Not being an ass, just asking?Comment
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