And all my fellow Latinos will just stear clear of this thread.
ATTENTION Whitey...
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The Karma bar is not always an accurate indicator of who is believable or not as all it takes is for someone with a vast post count to dislike your opinion and turn you red. Also plenty of members have green Karma because that members friends turn them back green, undeservedly so at times. I've seen so-called senior members use the Karma system as a way to strong-arm the opinion of new members many, many times.
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I completely agree with you, there's racism from all sides of the board. And far be it from me to try to point a finger because I haven't the will, nor a finger big enough to label them all. Your examples, while perfectly spot on also bring to light a sense of shame. I feel pity for those who have said such things either towards you or towards others.Brizzy,
You are one of the guys on here who I respect. So I will share my observations as a mixed-race guy who happens NOT to be American.
There is a ****load of racism on this board. And it is vastly skewed towards black fighters.
Here are some examples:
1) A Brit poster on here referred to Floyd as being just another thug like Jeff Lacy. I asked the question of what made lacy "a thug". I'm still awaiting that response.
2) Floyd is often lumped in with Roy Jones, Jr. As in "I can't wait until he's KO'd like Fraud Jones". What do the two have to do with one another?? It is actually hard for me to think of many similarities between those two fighters other than their P4P legacies. Roy is a country boy who rarely participated in self-promotion or the marketing of his fights. Floyd is a city boy who seems to do little BUT fight and self-promote.
3) Anything a black boxer does to get in trouble or that breaks the rules is referred to as "******". Well, Floyd and Arturo gatti have nearly identical rap sheets. Is Gatti "******"? Is Paul Spadafora "******"?
4) I hear fighters' grammar criticized and them referred to as uneducated. The posters saying it almost invariably have their posts riddled with poor grammar, diction and misspellings. Why is "ebonics" more a subject of mockery than Hatton, for example, saying "I have me best fights against me best competition"? Double standard, maybe?
5) Boxing is an amalgam of a whole host of skills: chin, athleticism, power, durability, stamina, strength, etc, etc. But if a black fighter relies on his athleticism, that is somehow less respected than if a white or Mexican fighter relies on his chin.
6) Mayweather gets eviscerated for TALKING at a press conference. But Barrera punched Morales bare-fisted (and risked the guy's career). Where was the outrage?
I can list examples ad infinitum...and, unfortunately, ad nauseam.
My favourites fighters happen to be a diverse lot: Casamayor, Guzman, Pac, Mayweather and Ouma. In roughly that order.
Anyway, this thread is a ticking racial timebomb and I plan on getting out of distance before it explodes. I was merely pointing out that racism can come from any angle, but I think we all knew that already. Bad timing on my part perhaps, but I'll stand by anything I've said here or otherwise.Comment
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I think you lost your damn mind. I will be hitting that for some hours. A couple shots of Hennessy cogac and a good ole blunt of dro and I will be at her trying to **** the dog **** out of her. I would knock the dust of that ***** YA DIG
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now thats the conspiracy....THOSE BASTARDS!!!The Karma bar is not always an accurate indicator of who is believable or not as all it takes is for someone with a vast post count to dislike your opinion and turn you red. Also plenty of members have green Karma because that members friends turn them back green, undeservedly so at times. I've seen so-called senior members use the Karma system as a way to strong-arm the opinion of new members many, many times.
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I don't think nr. 5 is completely accurate. Most people respect RJJ for his athleticism, black as well as white. Or Whitaker, Floyd or Toney for that matter.Brizzy,
You are one of the guys on here who I respect. So I will share my observations as a mixed-race guy who happens NOT to be American.
There is a ****load of racism on this board. And it is vastly skewed towards black fighters.
Here are some examples:
1) A Brit poster on here referred to Floyd as being just another thug like Jeff Lacy. I asked the question of what made lacy "a thug". I'm still awaiting that response.
2) Floyd is often lumped in with Roy Jones, Jr. As in "I can't wait until he's KO'd like Fraud Jones". What do the two have to do with one another?? It is actually hard for me to think of many similarities between those two fighters other than their P4P legacies. Roy is a country boy who rarely participated in self-promotion or the marketing of his fights. Floyd is a city boy who seems to do little BUT fight and self-promote.
3) Anything a black boxer does to get in trouble or that breaks the rules is referred to as "******". Well, Floyd and Arturo gatti have nearly identical rap sheets. Is Gatti "******"? Is Paul Spadafora "******"?
4) I hear fighters' grammar criticized and them referred to as uneducated. The posters saying it almost invariably have their posts riddled with poor grammar, diction and misspellings. Why is "ebonics" more a subject of mockery than Hatton, for example, saying "I have me best fights against me best competition"? Double standard, maybe?
5) Boxing is an amalgam of a whole host of skills: chin, athleticism, power, durability, stamina, strength, etc, etc. But if a black fighter relies on his athleticism, that is somehow less respected than if a white or Mexican fighter relies on his chin.
6) Mayweather gets eviscerated for TALKING at a press conference. But Barrera punched Morales bare-fisted (and risked the guy's career). Where was the outrage?
I can list examples ad infinitum...and, unfortunately, ad nauseam.
My favourites fighters happen to be a diverse lot: Casamayor, Guzman, Pac, Mayweather and Ouma. In roughly that order.
Of course, there's always some ****heads who tries to ice-skate uphill...
People who say Roy Jones is a fraud should look in the mirror and take a good look to find out what a fraud really looks like.
It's annoying to listen to the lame racist-**** over and over and over again.
It's childish and ******, so why bother going after it like crazy lunatics every time it's brought up?
Like little children, they will only do it more when they get a reaction to it, so just leave it.
And this is generally speaking, not aimed at you DIOS
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Cant really argue with that. Other then the fact that it goes both ways.Brizzy,
You are one of the guys on here who I respect. So I will share my observations as a mixed-race guy who happens NOT to be American.
There is a ****load of racism on this board. And it is vastly skewed towards black fighters.
Here are some examples:
1) A Brit poster on here referred to Floyd as being just another thug like Jeff Lacy. I asked the question of what made lacy "a thug". I'm still awaiting that response.
2) Floyd is often lumped in with Roy Jones, Jr. As in "I can't wait until he's KO'd like Fraud Jones". What do the two have to do with one another?? It is actually hard for me to think of many similarities between those two fighters other than their P4P legacies. Roy is a country boy who rarely participated in self-promotion or the marketing of his fights. Floyd is a city boy who seems to do little BUT fight and self-promote.
3) Anything a black boxer does to get in trouble or that breaks the rules is referred to as "******". Well, Floyd and Arturo gatti have nearly identical rap sheets. Is Gatti "******"? Is Paul Spadafora "******"?
4) I hear fighters' grammar criticized and them referred to as uneducated. The posters saying it almost invariably have their posts riddled with poor grammar, diction and misspellings. Why is "ebonics" more a subject of mockery than Hatton, for example, saying "I have me best fights against me best competition"? Double standard, maybe?
5) Boxing is an amalgam of a whole host of skills: chin, athleticism, power, durability, stamina, strength, etc, etc. But if a black fighter relies on his athleticism, that is somehow less respected than if a white or Mexican fighter relies on his chin.
6) Mayweather gets eviscerated for TALKING at a press conference. But Barrera punched Morales bare-fisted (and risked the guy's career). Where was the outrage?
I can list examples ad infinitum...and, unfortunately, ad nauseam.
My favourites fighters happen to be a diverse lot: Casamayor, Guzman, Pac, Mayweather and Ouma. In roughly that order.
If a fighter is from europe he is automatically labelled as 'protected'.
If a fighter has a 1-2 jab, right hand style (which just so happens to be mostly guys from europe), the guy's style is labelled 'awkward' and 'unorthodox'. In other words, unamericanized.
If a guy is from the UK (fighterfrom Ireland, Wales, etc) he is labelled as a Brit or a "euro". like, what the ****?
I can go on and on. No double standard here. Racism from both worlds.Comment
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When Irish and Welsh become different races let me know.
A black guy any where on the planet is still black. You can go on and on but if I were you I'd stop.Comment
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I've heard Zag get referred to as a 'brit' and the same with duddy. also heard them referred to as 'euro's.
get off your high horse.Comment

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