How many PPV buys would Cotto-Mosley do?

[SkillspayBills]

Cotto-Judah did not do 250K.
Are you using the "Arum number"?

I guess so, what is the actual number that the fight sold?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

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whatever you wanna know.

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[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I guess so, what is the actual number that the fight sold?

HBO did not release the number because the fight performed poorly. Notice how HBO always issues a press release with the nums, but did NOT for the Cotto-Judah fight.

Then Arum said that the fight did "two hundred and change", and then told some media outlet that the fight did 225K.

The reality is that the fight did under two hundred. I'm always interested in the PPV performance, and I'm kind of peripherally in that business. I asked a friend in the cable industry and she said that the rollup of the RBOC's was below 180K.

I trust her number. Not Arum's.

Plus, Ellerbe said that the fight did 150K buys...which lends further credence to the low number.

[SkillspayBills]

HBO did not release the number because the fight performed poorly. Notice how HBO always issues a press release with the nums, but did NOT for the Cotto-Judah fight.

Then Arum said that the fight did "two hundred and change", and then told some media outlet that the fight did 225K.

The reality is that the fight did under two hundred. I'm always interested in the PPV performance, and I'm kind of peripherally in that business. I asked a friend in the cable industry and she said that the rollup of the RBOC's was below 180K.

I trust her number. Not Arum's.

Plus, Ellerbe said that the fight did 150K buys...which lends further credence to the low number.

Damn that is wayyyy lower than anyone would have expected. I will still stand by the fight selling around 375k though.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Damn that is wayyyy lower than anyone would have expected. I will still stand by the fight selling around 375k though.

HBO has never quite been sold on Miguel's commercial viability. For good reason.

He did solid gate two years ago for Abdullaev, and then about 13,000 sold tickets for Malignaggi. The problem is that the gate is never big money. To make big money for yourself and for your business partners, you have to be a PPV fighter.

Arum announced that Cotto would fight Malignaggi, and HBO decided to instead back the Hopkins-Tarver fight down the road on the same night. Resultingly, Cotto-paulie did a ****ty 100K buys.

Further complicating their relationship, Arum took Miguel to Showtime for the Quintana fight which was the Margarito-Clottey co-feature.

Then, Miguel comes back to HBO and the Judah fight underperforms. It was well-promoted and well-marketed. HBO gave it the "Countdown" treatment. It sold well in the Northeast (Puerto Ricans and Judah's base), and did poorly in the South, midwest and west.

The jury is out on Miguel's marketability. Very much so.

I like your 375K prediction. I'm puzzled by the four people who predicted 600K plus. Oscar-Shane 1 didn't do 600K.

[SkillspayBills]

HBO has never quite been sold on Miguel's commercial viability. For good reason.

He did solid gate two years ago for Abdullaev, and then about 13,000 sold tickets for Malignaggi. The problem is that the gate is never big money. To make big money for yourself and for your business partners, you have to be a PPV fighter.

Arum announced that Cotto would fight Malignaggi, and HBO decided to instead back the Hopkins-Tarver fight down the road on the same night. Resultingly, Cotto-paulie did a ****ty 100K buys.

Further complicating their relationship, Arum took Miguel to Showtime for the Quintana fight which was the Margarito-Clottey co-feature.

Then, Miguel comes back to HBO and the Judah fight underperforms. It was well-promoted and well-marketed. HBO gave it the "Countdown" treatment. It sold well in the Northeast (Puerto Ricans and Judah's base), and did poorly in the South, midwest and west.

The jury is out on Miguel's marketability. Very much so.

I like your 375K prediction. I'm puzzled by the four people who predicted 600K plus. Oscar-Shane 1 didn't do 600K.

Great analysis DD now I have a better understanding of exactly what is going on.
Oh and we have 4 DILLUSIONAL Cotto fans who will probably try to buy the ppv more than once themselves

[STEELHEAD]

i guess 500k. cottos brings newyork and pr mosley brings in big los angeles and chicanos and corrales fans.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

i guess 500k. cottos brings newyork and pr mosley brings in big los angeles and chicanos and corrales fans.

But Shane just fought a Puerto Rican in Las Vegas and the room a 3/4 empty.

True story.

[STEELHEAD]

But Shane just fought a Puerto Rican in Las Vegas and the room a 3/4 empty.

True story.

you talking about that tuneup with collazo? is he puerto rican.
we talking ppv here title fight