Better Resume in the last 4 years: Calzaghe or Kessler

[Technical_Skill]

Lacys best win was Pemberton and he only fought journeymen and Jeff was a product of hype that generally goes with ****ers , both Beyer and Mundine and Kessler himself would beat the slow Jeff Lacy very easy.

Nah u been watching something else mate, lets not make lacy out to be Totally **** cos he lost to JC,

Lacy stopped robin reid who is miles better than anyone Kessler has fought, and reid in his prime would beat Kessler,

Lacy in his prime would handle kessler as well.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing.

[Thread Stealer]

You are Just Trawling for Flame.. Seriously you little ****less cretins need to find something to with your time and stop being pests..

People are seriously undervaluing the achievments of Kessler.

Since 2004 he has beaten:

Manny Siaca (WBA titleholder/top 10 Ring contender)
Anthony Mundine (#3 ranked Ring contender)
Markus Beyer (WBC titleholder/#4 ranked Ring contender)
Librado Andrade (#5 ranked Ring contender)

[EliteSoldier]

Calzaghes not underrating Kessler, thats why he is going to hurt Kessler. Kessler is underrating Calzaghes power. Jeff Lacy was hit by bombs in that fight, Lacy has a great chin. People think Calzaghe is just a fast puncher, but his punches hurt like hell when they land.

[Parody]

Calzaghes not underrating Kessler, thats why he is going to hurt Kessler. Kessler is underrating Calzaghes power. Jeff Lacy was hit by bombs in that fight, Lacy has a great chin. People think Calzaghe is just a fast puncher, but his punches hurt like hell when they land.

Kessler will win this fight, trust me. though it will be close, Kessler wont be able to dominate, like he does in every fight.

[Welter_Skelter]

People are seriously undervaluing the achievments of Kessler.

Since 2004 he has beaten:

Manny Siaca (WBA titleholder/top 10 Ring contender)
Anthony Mundine (#3 ranked Ring contender)
Markus Beyer (WBC titleholder/#4 ranked Ring contender)
Librado Andrade (#5 ranked Ring contender)

Well I have to thank you for at least trying to be reasonable..

Andrande is he any Better or worse than Lacy.. Is he???
Beyer??? Calzaghe would have KO'd in 2-4 rounds as well..
Mundine??? Do you think he would have KO'd Byron mitchell in 2 rounds??? Is he any better than Mario Veit??

Siaca.. I dont know.. is it possible there is reason for that..???
Like who the **** is he????

It's ok not to like Calzaghe.. But dont let your feelings cloud your logic.. That is what Women do....

[RodBarker]

Nah u been watching something else mate, lets not make lacy out to be Totally **** cos he lost to JC,

Lacy stopped robin reid who is miles better than anyone Kessler has fought, and reid in his prime would beat Kessler,

Lacy in his prime would handle kessler as well.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing.

Nah cant fly with you on that one Tech ,, Lacy never fought anyone near prime and was hype made not proven , he won a vacant title , Reid was a shell and Sheika showed an awefull lot of kinks in Lacy ,,, Im not saying he is **** because of the Cal win but he sure aint nothing special and I never swallowed the hype and never thought he would beat Joe , I believe a good skillfull boxer which Beyer Mundine and Kessler all are would beat Lacy just like Joe did , one sided .

[ИATAS]

Calzaghe. His win over Peter Manfredo Jr. has cemented him as the best of all time.

[dumdane]

Nah u been watching something else mate, lets not make lacy out to be Totally **** cos he lost to JC,

Lacy stopped robin reid who is miles better than anyone Kessler has fought, and reid in his prime would beat Kessler,

Lacy in his prime would handle kessler as well.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing.

No, Lacy is/was not "totally ****". He WAS being overrated going into the Calzaghe fight and some Calzaghe fans tend to make a bit much out of that win.
BUT - it's fair to consider Lacy better than any single name Kessler has fought in his career. I think Mundine MIGHT well be better and would love to see a Lacy and Mundine fight each other (would also like to see how/if Lacy would actually handle Andrade). But fair is fair. Lets say Lacy is better.
Lacy COULD still rightfully be the no. 3 in the division. The poor performance against Tsypko was after all (presumeably) much due to the shoulder injury Lacy sustained. With that in mind i think it's fair to say these days if anything Lacy is underrated (except by certain Calzaghe huggers).

HOWEVER, even if Lacy is the single best scalp between Calzaghe and Kessler, Kessler still have by far the better recent resume. None of Kesslers oponents have been absolute worldbeaters. But apart from Lacy they are still a clear step above Calzaghe's recent opposition.

...and as for that claim about prime Reid beating Kessler - What a load of bull... I know there is no absolute evidence since they havent faced each other - and certainly never will prime vs prime. But there's absolutely NOTHING to justify having Reid the fave in that. Such claims just signal complete (and probably intentional) ignorance about Kessler's potential.

But hey - if someone prefers to aproach the nov 3rd fight with blinkers on, that's entirely their own choice. Now that the fight has been made i don't really give a **** how much some ppl wanna underrate Kessler.

Hope to see 'em eating crow nov 4th.


(for the record i have Kessler about a 60-40 fave over Calzaghe)

[jangeorg]

Calzaghe's resume isn't great - he can't even punch properly, that's why he ends up fighting most fights one-handed and stinking the place out. He's a good brawler with a massive heart and won't stop punching (unless his hand hurts), but he's too square-on to get by a good boxer-puncher near their best and has fought more hideously **** opponents than any world champion in history. And somehow got away with fighting once or twice a year, while too scared to leave South Wales even outside of boxing terms

[gigogreco]

the last 4 years, if it includes 2003, then i would give it to joe, based on byron mitchell, doesnt it include 2003, then i would call it even.

but personally 4 years is really not that interesting, 4 years is a long time ago, personally a more suited time frame would perhaps be, when kessler became a champ.. then we could compare :

their first 4 defences..

their last 4 fights...

then kessler would easely be the front runner..