What is the greatest boxing performance you have ever seen?

[jai mari078]

That is an excellent point.

But this is where boxing becomes a little bit like figure skating. You get that 5.7 from the Russian judge.

We all think Cotto is a good, elite fighter. On the basis of ...what again? Beating a Judah who was winless in two years? Nahmean?

Delahoya pounded out Gatti. For sure. But what Floyd did was somehow...umm....prettier. The fast hands and the combinations, etc. Actually, if you remember the ODLH-Gatti fight, Arturo actually had moments. The entire boxing community was like "WHOA" after watching what PBF did. Oscar didn't get that reaction from his performance.

Hatto was heavily criticized for looking ****ty against Collazo and Urango. But then he stops castillo, and everybody is back on the bandwagon. We are questioning why Judah just went 10 with a journeyman. It's important (sometimes) how you look. Like figure skating.

The PBF-Gatti fight was just a pure snuff film.

The difference is that Oscar won differently in that he beat him more brutslly by pounding him to submission and physically hurt him well. I am not saying that Floyd isn't fast, that is not debatatble. I am not a Floyd fan but I can't dispute that. What I am soaying is that it is not hard to look fast against Gatti. Had Floyd done that to an elite fighter that was in his prime, it would have been a different story.

[-AZZA-]

lewis - rahman rematch, as soon as that punch landed all of britain went " ahhhhhhhhhhhh "

[jai mari078]

That is an excellent point.

But this is where boxing becomes a little bit like figure skating. You get that 5.7 from the Russian judge.

We all think Cotto is a good, elite fighter. On the basis of ...what again? Beating a Judah who was winless in two years? Nahmean?

Delahoya pounded out Gatti. For sure. But what Floyd did was somehow...umm....prettier. The fast hands and the combinations, etc. Actually, if you remember the ODLH-Gatti fight, Arturo actually had moments. The entire boxing community was like "WHOA" after watching what PBF did. Oscar didn't get that reaction from his performance.

Hatto was heavily criticized for looking ****ty against Collazo and Urango. But then he stops castillo, and everybody is back on the bandwagon. We are questioning why Judah just went 10 with a journeyman. It's important (sometimes) how you look. Like figure skating.

The PBF-Gatti fight was just a pure snuff film.

I remember watching that fight and Oscar did get the reaction that he was muredering Gatti at the time and people were in awe of the bombs he was hitting him with. Now it is just a case oof people recognizing what has happened more recently. Short term memeory. It would have been impressive had Gatti never been made look bad but that is not the case. That is why I don't see that performance as that impressive. He didn't do anything to gatti that he wasn't suppose to do. Like we didn't all know that was gonna happen already, and if you didn't you should have. I am a Gatti fan for his heart, but he was way way past his prime and extremely war riddin. he has absolutely no reflexes anymore.

[Fox McCloud]

The difference is that Oscar won differently in that he beat him more brutslly by pounding him to submission and physically hurt him well. I am not saying that Floyd isn't fast, that is not debatatble. I am not a Floyd fan but I can't dispute that. What I am soaying is that it is not hard to look fast against Gatti. Had Floyd done that to an elite fighter that was in his prime, it would have been a different story.

I think the true difference between Mayweather-Gatti and any other fight I can think of is the fact that Gatti never landed a punch. Obviously he actually landed a jab or a hook or something... but there are punches that you take note of. They don't even have to be hard, they just have to somewhat significant, and I didn't see a single Gatti punch that was significant. Mayorga landed at least one good shot against Oscar. Lacy landed a few significant blows against Calzaghe. I can't think of any fight that only had one fighter landing significant blows other than Mayweather-Gatti.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

The difference is that Oscar won differently in that he beat him more brutslly by pounding him to submission and physically hurt him well. I am not saying that Floyd isn't fast, that is not debatatble. I am not a Floyd fan but I can't dispute that. What I am soaying is that it is not hard to look fast against Gatti. Had Floyd done that to an elite fighter that was in his prime, it would have been a different story.

You mean like this?

[jai mari078]

That is an excellent point.

But this is where boxing becomes a little bit like figure skating. You get that 5.7 from the Russian judge.

We all think Cotto is a good, elite fighter. On the basis of ...what again? Beating a Judah who was winless in two years? Nahmean?

Delahoya pounded out Gatti. For sure. But what Floyd did was somehow...umm....prettier. The fast hands and the combinations, etc. Actually, if you remember the ODLH-Gatti fight, Arturo actually had moments. The entire boxing community was like "WHOA" after watching what PBF did. Oscar didn't get that reaction from his performance.

Hatto was heavily criticized for looking ****ty against Collazo and Urango. But then he stops castillo, and everybody is back on the bandwagon. We are questioning why Judah just went 10 with a journeyman. It's important (sometimes) how you look. Like figure skating.

The PBF-Gatti fight was just a pure snuff film.

Cotto is impressive for the way that he beats people. The way that he imposes his will on you and the way that he attacks the body so viciously. Also, because he has faced adversity and had the heart to get up and come back to knock people out. There is nothing wrong with getting exposed a little and having to face adversity, it gives you the chance to prove what you are made of. A lot of people criticize Cotto for his early adversity, but honestly it was probably the best thing for him, and if you notice he hasn't been hurt that way since. If anything he has proven his chin. I am not a fan of Zab but no matter waht you say he still has the power to hurt you if he hits you flush. Cotto took some hard shots from Zab and kept coming. I have always felt Zab was overrated and it wsn't that Cotto beat him, it was the way he beat him. Zab is not a good measuring stick though because Floyd had no business fighting him as well after coming off the loss to Baldomir. I'm not crediting Cotto for beating Zab, it is for the way he did. had Floyd stopped him, I would have been impressed with that as well, but it's not surprising that Floyd outboxed him.

[IrishDannyMac]

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[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I just watched ODLH-Gatti again. I wanted to make sure the fight was fresh in my mind. Oscar ate shots. He had blood coming from his nose and mouth.

Gatti couldn't handle Oscar's power.... but Arturo actually got some work done.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2053700529753779077&q=delahoya+gatti&total=29&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Cotto is impressive for the way that he beats people. The way that he imposes his will on you and the way that he attacks the body so viciously. Also, because he has faced adversity and had the heart to get up and come back to knock people out. There is nothing wrong with getting exposed a little and having to face adversity, it gives you the chance to prove what you are made of. A lot of people criticize Cotto for his early adversity, but honestly it was probably the best thing for him, and if you notice he hasn't been hurt that way since. If anything he has proven his chin. I am not a fan of Zab but no matter waht you say he still has the power to hurt you if he hits you flush. Cotto took some hard shots from Zab and kept coming. I have always felt Zab was overrated and it wsn't that Cotto beat him, it was the way he beat him. Zab is not a good measuring stick though because Floyd had no business fighting him as well after coming off the loss to Baldomir. I'm not crediting Cotto for beating Zab, it is for the way he did. had Floyd stopped him, I would have been impressed with that as well, but it's not surprising that Floyd outboxed him.

A) Zab was en route to a TKO vs mayweather. That is why he bailed himself out with the nutpunch.

B) Cotto has developed a Trinidad-esque habit of throwing a low blow when he gets hurt.

C) I do not give guys credit for being hurt by a busta. I give them demerits.

[jai mari078]

I think the true difference between Mayweather-Gatti and any other fight I can think of is the fact that Gatti never landed a punch. Obviously he actually landed a jab or a hook or something... but there are punches that you take note of. They don't even have to be hard, they just have to somewhat significant, and I didn't see a single Gatti punch that was significant. Mayorga landed at least one good shot against Oscar. Lacy landed a few significant blows against Calzaghe. I can't think of any fight that only had one fighter landing significant blows other than Mayweather-Gatti.

At that point in Gattis career why is that surprising with so much of a difference in speed and Gatti as shot as he was. Of course Oscar was gonna get hit he wasn't exactly moving around on Mayorga. He came stright at him, and wasn't trying to avoid the contact.