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  • Wiley Hyena
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    Hatton v. Mayweather: The Final Analysis

    In response to all the pleas, I'll dispense with the sarcasm and give you ONE well placed straight right hand regarding the upcoming Hatton-Mayweather bout (I normally use the word "fight," but with regard to Mayweather, that word is wholly inapproprate).

    Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is to boxing history what Jimmy Carter is to U.S. history. Ok, he's President, but he is no Washington or Lincoln, and never will be. It doesn't matter how many 12 round pillowfights he wins or statistics he can dig up and wave around because Floyd will not change. As long as he can win and get rich without getting hit, nothing will change. Maybe, just maybe, Floyd is perfectly content to be Jimmy Carter. Hell, he's still the President!

    Now all roads lead to Ricky Hatton, 43-0, and apparently Britain's version of the second coming of Christ. However, most non-British observers believe that Hatton is the perfect target for Floyd to enhance his name in the annals of boxing by adding an undefeated layer of padding to his already gigantic feather bed.

    Hatton, having found a way to hammer out a great record with guts and grappling, is overrated. There, I've said it. He made his name by hanging himself all over an aging Kostya Tszyu until Tszyu got too tired to walk and just had to sit down for a moment. Can we expect this to happen to Floyd Mayweather, Jr.? There is a big difference between Tszyu's old praying mantis and Mayweather's fresh butterfly. If you're prone to a flutter here and there, then bet on Mayweather to win in another ho hum decision. Nevertheless, the bout does retain some interest for the spectator. Hatton is one of the best grapplers in boxing. He excels in repeatedly holding his opponent and taking pot shots when the opportunity arises. In Britain, Hatton has been allowed to use this questionable tactic to great effect. The real issue in this bout is whether or not Las Vegas will allow Hatton to fight his fight and thereby cast his butterfly net. If, by the second round it becomes apparent that Hatton will not be allowed to grapple and hold, you might as well change the channel. Oscar De LaHoya couldn't legally catch Floyd. Are we to believe that Ricky Hatton can? I would suggest "Hogan's Heroes" on T.V. Land, but you do as you may.

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    #2
    why do fools have to pretend they know about boxing on this forum?

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    • Easton Assassin
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      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
      In response to all the pleas, I'll dispense with the sarcasm and give you ONE well placed straight right hand regarding the upcoming Hatton-Mayweather bout (I normally use the word "fight," but with regard to Mayweather, that word is clearly inapproprate).

      Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is to boxing history what Jimmy Carter is to U.S. history. Ok, he's President, but he is no Washington or Lincoln, and never will be. It doesn't matter how many 12 round pillowfights he wins or statistics he can dig up and wave because Floyd will not change. As long as he can win and get rich without getting hit, nothing will change. Maybe, just maybe, Floyd is perfectly content to be Jimmy Carter. Hell, he's still the President!

      Now all roads lead to Ricky Hatton, 43-0, and apparently Britain's version of the second coming of Christ. However, most non-British observers believe that Hatton is the perfect target for Floyd to enhance his name in the annals of boxing by adding an undefeated layer of padding to his already gigantic feather bed.

      Hatton, having found a way to hammer out a great record with guts and grappling, is overrated. There, I've said it. He made his name by hanging himself all over an aging Kostya Tszyu until Tszyu simply got too tired to walk and had to sit down for a moment. Can we expect this to happen to Floyd Mayweather, Jr.? There is a big difference between Tszyu's old praying mantis and Mayweather's fresh butterfly. If you're prone to a flutter here and there, then bet on Mayweather to win in another ho hum decision. Nevertheless, the bout does retain some interest to the spectator for the fact that of all the mediocre competition that Mayweather has faced, Hatton has the noted ability to grapple and can punch while holding his opponent. The real issue in this bout is whether or not the referee will allow Hatton to cast his butterfly net. If, by the second round it becomes apparent that Hatton will not be allowed to grapple and hold, you might as well change the channel. A valiant but over-the-hill Oscar De LaHoya couldn't catch Floyd legally. Are we to believe that Ricky Hatton can? I would suggest "Hogan's Heroes" on T.V. Land, but you do as you may.

      Wiley Hyena
      I agree for the most part, but we differ in that i give Hatton a better chance than DLH. ASk yourself one question. Why would Hatton, who is very rich already feel a need to even face Mayweather unless he felt very confident in his ability to win? Calzaghe has proven that you dont have to leave england to be a supertar over there and you can get rich without risk aswell. So again, what should be said is Hattons knows somthing we don't or Hatton is delusional. If he is delusional, I salute him. We need more like him in this sport.

      If he knows somthing we don't? Then all these nuthuggers here will have a **** load of humble pie to be eatin-either way, as a fan i win!!!

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      • Lubutheimmortal
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        Originally posted by dansapien
        why do fools have to pretend they know about boxing on this forum?
        I wouldnt label him a fool. He makes sense IMO. I agree with him 80% (wont get into detail). I am rootinh for Hatton & see his small chances, but I favor Mayweather to UD.

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        • Wiley Hyena
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          Beats me....to both of the above questions. In regards to Easton: Ricky may just be a competitor. From what I've seen that may very well be the answer. Also IMO there is such thing as a good plan, but there is no such thing as a secret formula. Shoot, Hatton could have taken this fight for any number of reasons, including money. Most big money fights these days are a win win situation for both the winner and the loser.
          Last edited by Wiley Hyena; 09-10-2007, 06:53 PM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
            Beats me.....
            awesome comparison, man.

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              Originally posted by Easton Assassin
              I agree for the most part, but we differ in that i give Hatton a better chance than DLH. ASk yourself one question. Why would Hatton, who is very rich already feel a need to even face Mayweather unless he felt very confident in his ability to win? Calzaghe has proven that you dont have to leave england to be a supertar over there and you can get rich without risk aswell. So again, what should be said is Hattons knows somthing we don't or Hatton is delusional. If he is delusional, I salute him. We need more like him in this sport.

              If he knows somthing we don't? Then all these nuthuggers here will have a **** load of humble pie to be eatin-either way, as a fan i win!!!
              I personally believe that Ricky thinks he is going to win the fight. Then again, I have never seen a figher that doesn't think he can win whatever fight he is going into.

              Jesus Ruiz promised his son that he was going to beat Chad Dawson and come back WBC Light Heavyweight champion. Why the **** would he lie to his son?

              The most stacked ability of any boxer is his confidence. ****, look at Zab Judah, lost a boatload of matches in a row, and still thinks he is a badass in the sport.

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                Originally posted by DWiens421
                I personally believe that Ricky thinks he is going to win the fight. Then again, I have never seen a figher that doesn't think he can win whatever fight he is going into.

                Jesus Ruiz promised his son that he was going to beat Chad Dawson and come back WBC Light Heavyweight champion. Why the **** would he lie to his son?

                The most stacked ability of any boxer is his confidence. ****, look at Zab Judah, lost a boatload of matches in a row, and still thinks he is a badass in the sport.

                I agree with that!

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                • Wiley Hyena
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                  Agreed. IMO Hatton believes that he can beat Floyd, and for the sake of the sport, I hope he does. A top flight contender will force Floyd to finally throw down. I just don't think Hatton is the guy to do it. Make no mistake about it, Floyd's camp took Hatton because they deemed him safe enough and by beating Hatton and his undefeated record, Floyd's status could be air pumped to even greater heights.

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                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    Agreed. IMO Hatton believes that he can beat Floyd, and for the sake of the sport, I hope he does. A top flight contender will force Floyd to finally throw down. I just don't think Hatton is the guy to do it. Make no mistake about it, Floyd's camp took Hatton because they deemed him safe enough and by beating Hatton and his undefeated record, Floyd's status could be air pumped to even greater heights.
                    Your spot on man, but consider this. Don't forget for a minute that Mayweathers myth is built upon the sand since leaving 130. He hasn't faced a truly aggressive fighter like Hatton since castillo, and Hattons more aggressive and stronger than Castillo ever was.

                    I'm telling you this beyond a shadow of a doubt, Mayweather is gonna be very hard pressed to box out of this fight! Hatton is training to make it a war- there is no other way for him. These people saying Floyd will be stronger are delusional. Hatton will Smother Floyd Immediatly. And he will do it all night long. Floyd will have no choice but to stand and fight in this one.


                    Now, I know many will say here, That Oscar Couldn't do it, Neither could Castillo, or Corrales, and you know what? Their right, but None of them are Hatton or have Hattons style. Castillo apllies pressure intelligently. Oscar never was comfortable as the aggressor, and Corrales is a typical set fighter(He has to set to throw effectively). Hatton is none of these.

                    Hattons style, no matter how ugly, is effective. he smothers,wrestles,rabbit punches,and just plain mauls people into submission. He doesn't do that 43 times in a row and suddenly run into somone he can't do it to. He may not be as effective at first, but he wont stop-not for a second, and Floyd better be ready to beat his ass consistantly all night, cause there wont be any pot-shot to the finish line against Hatton!


                    Don't believe the pundits man-How many time have they been completely and utterly wrong? The so called experts don't have a ***in clue, otherwise their wouldn't be upsets, and boxing is a sport KNOWN for upsets. Why is that? probably because styles make fights and you can guess all day long, but in the end, History has proven that the one guy that beats a slick boxer is the guy that knows how to make a fight ugly-Sound Like Hatton?

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