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I like to have good discussion about boxing, mostly because none of my friends are hardcore fans enough to even know who Jameel McCline is. Unwarranted posts take away from that... I'm just trying to get that across.
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sounds good to me
it would be better if people just lightened up in the first place though, and then no one would care enough to get into pointless arguments that dont matter whatsoever since its over the internet.
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OPEL SENATORLast edited by Steak; 02-11-2011, 05:33 AM.Comment
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First of all. Go back and read "Defining greatness" and "Mayweather demise". I point out quite clearly that Mayweather like Jones and Hopkins is nothing but Risk versus reward. I also point out why that is whats wrong with boxing, and why it is a trend that has and will erode the sport completly. It's simple. When a fighter avoids risks to maximise reward, he is literally ducking competition in an attemp to line his pockets. Why is that so hard to understand? You are telling me that that kind of guy( You just said Mayweather was that kind of guy) Is really the best fighter alive? If you admire Mayweather business prowess then great- he is p4p champ, but if you have any interest in the true essence of the sport then you would call him anything but the best! You would understand that he is raping a rich history of men who gave everything to make the sport what it is today. When did it become acceptable for a champion to To act like a thug. When did it become the norm to admit openly that your fighting just for the money. With Jones, thats when. This sport you love is being overtaken by a bunch of ***in amatuer MMa ****'s for a reason. The public is increasingly turned off by the bull**** and the bull**** so called champions that are being promoted. Hell people are paying 50 bucks to watch Chuck liddel throw uppercuts from 10 feet out- Why do you think that is?
We want warriors, not ***in bankers! Thats why floyd can't put ass one in a set- neither could Hopkins.
And these are the guys you promote as a fan- The guys that are sticking it in you while you promote them!
See why I have a short fuse?Comment
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I do see why you have a short fuse... but I have a different definition of risk vs. reward. I think reward also includes status and what is at stake (aside from money). Like I said in my example of Margarito and Baldomir (even though they weren't specifically named) I think The Ring belt being on the line instead of just the WBO belt certainly had just as much to do with it as the money.
I think that no matter what Mayweather does, he will always be plagued by people saying he ducked someone. People said he ducked Hatton at 140, and now he is fighting him, and all I hear is that he is ducking Cotto, Mosley and Williams. The #1 P4P fighter is always accused of ducking someone, because everyone goes out of their way to call him out. Jones didn't get any respect, Hopkins didn't get any respect, and now Mayweather isn't getting any respect. This is why I get equally upset when I hear people call Mayweather a coward, I just don't ****ing know what he can do to shut everyone up.Comment
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uality of oppositio
I agree on some points. There are those that give mayweather no credit. If you read my posts you will see I have given him much credit despite the obvious disdain i have for him. I have said that Fighting Hatton was a good thing. I have said beating Hatton will go along ways towards his legitimacy. I have called him Talented, and i have even given him credit at 130 which is undisputable in my book.
I don't like him personally, but that has no bearing on my assessment of his ability in the ring-infact i have always stated that there is no way to tell until he actually fights a live prime champion. Most use Corrales as a retort, never realizing that the whole gist is not what Floyd did at 130, but what he has done since then. His resume since leaving 130 is not stellar, period. Many will still argue that it is-it is beyond me! Many of these same will trash hattons record which is comparable! Tszyu and Castillo where shot, but Judah wasn't a perinial b level fighter and DLH wasn't 10 years past prime! Thats the logic- Thats the problem. If that isn't evident biased, then what is?
I don't think Hatton is the second comming. Infact he has a tall order to beat Mayweather. I'm picking him because i believe he will bring everything, every minute, and as physically as he can the whole fight. I think he will wear Floyd down. Cotto would ream hatton In my opinion- hell, he would ream em both- Same reason, to too big, too strong, too prime!
Really take a look at the path Floyd has taken for a moment and ask yourself one question. Name one prime guy since Castillo that really had the sheer tenacity that hatton has. Name on guy that really had the Tools to threaten admittedly a very slick boxer. Dlh has always been plagued by good boxers even when prime(Mosley),Judah is just an under achieving wonder, Baldy,Ndou,Mitchell,Gatti, all limited to say the least.
What has Floyd really done?
Quality of opposition,Quality of opposition,Quality of opposition-repeat it to infinity-It's all that Matters!Comment
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Greatest thread in existence? I think so.Comment
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why are you interviewing a nobody about a subject he clearly knows nothing about?
what a ****** post!!Comment
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