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  • -Antonio-
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    #21
    Originally posted by Darkstar
    Which doesnt help boxing. The Contender is boring compared to last seasons TUF.
    Yeah UFC did it the right way. Show the whole fight, show more of the training, and living in the house. Not all this drama and family stuff.

    The Contedner 3 has been good so far though. They finally got it semi-right. They still should show the whole fight during the actual telecast though, not at midnight on the deuce.

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    • SweetyBoy
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      #22
      UFC is huge amongst the White people, like the rednecks, and White fratboys and rich white boys. It is like EMINEM remember he was huge? what happen to him?

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      • Italian Dragon
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        #23
        MMA is a fad. They have no stars. There is no science to it, it's first punch first serve. It's all quick, short, shocks. It's the Jackass generation looking for the next fix.

        Like someone said, all their "stars" have recently been beaten, MMA can never have real superstars because it's anybodies ballgame. Let it be, it will pass.

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        • THe TRiNiTY
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          #24
          Originally posted by Brave_turtle
          LOL your clearly an MMA hater, stop acting.

          It's a shame boxing doesn't get as much attention as MMA these days. Many people has pointed some interesting problems (corruption, weigth class, models). To me the biggest problem is corruption, nothing more ****ty than a fixed fight. The worst is that some are so obvious.

          About your argument that MMA will die because their stars will lose... How dumb is that as an argument? Muhammed Ali has 5 loss, did he killed the sport by losing? Posterboys getting beaten is not what kill a sport. What kill a sport is corruption!

          Posterboys losing is a proof that anything can happen in a fight and it's not corrupted, unlike boxing of these days. Just to correct your ignorance, alot of top fighters are still undefeated. I wouldn't name them but I would rather give you the opportunity to do your research before talking.

          Give credit where credit is due. MMA and UFC has been doing better business than Boxing promoter. My mother (62 y.o) who never liked Fighting sports start watching UFC lately, you know why? Because Randy Couture (44), came from retirement and gets the HW title.

          UFC and MMA, promotes him like a hero (Captain America) and it works. He speaks well, fights well and people can relate to him as Captain-America. Some people like my mom doesn't like the sport itself but the aura around it. You know the same aura when Ali defeated Foreman about 30 years ago if you were old enough at that time?

          MMA is having a huge success, either we ride the bus or just stay aside but there is no need to diss a sport just because we are uneducated about it.
          If I hated MMA so badly, how would I know all those guys, and know that they lost, and why woud I have watched the recent UFC they telecasted on SpikeTV? If your response is just going to be something that takes no insight and is just "Blah Blah Blah Hater" Don't respond... I like MMA and Boxing.. Boxing is just better to me. And PRIME for PRIME.. Boxing has and wil have more popularity in my personal opinion.

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          • Brave_turtle
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            #25
            Originally posted by Italian Dragon
            MMA is a fad. They have no stars. There is no science to it, it's first punch first serve. It's all quick, short, shocks. It's the Jackass generation looking for the next fix.

            Like someone said, all their "stars" have recently been beaten, MMA can never have real superstars because it's anybodies ballgame. Let it be, it will pass.
            Do you realize how wrong you are?

            I can respect people preferring a sport to another, everyone are entitle to have their own opinion or taste but when I hear uneducated comments like this all I can do is *sigh*

            Please educate yourself...

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            • them_apples
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              #26
              I'm a huge MMA fan, but I agree what Italian dragon is saying. MMA has jsut recently hit the big screen however, so things could change. But as it stands now they haven't had any dominating figures other than possibly fedor, and he's only had about 13-15 fights.

              Mirko Cro cop was supposed to be the worlds most dangerous striker, and he just lost to Chieck Kongo, which I saw coming a mile away.

              I do think there is skill involved though, A lot more skill than old boxing fans will want to believe, but it hasn't shown up yet. There will be a 70's era for MMA to, just like boxing.

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              • Brave_turtle
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                #27
                Originally posted by them_apples
                I'm a huge MMA fan, but I agree what Italian dragon is saying. MMA has jsut recently hit the big screen however, so things could change. But as it stands now they haven't had any dominating figures other than possibly fedor, and he's only had about 13-15 fights.

                Mirko Cro cop was supposed to be the worlds most dangerous striker, and he just lost to Chieck Kongo, which I saw coming a mile away.

                I do think there is skill involved though, A lot more skill than old boxing fans will want to believe, but it hasn't shown up yet. There will be a 70's era for MMA to, just like boxing.
                1st of all, MMA has much more dominating stars than Just Fedor. I heard similar things about Boxing when a friend of mine was telling me Boxing has nothing left but PFB. Completely wrong but It's as wrong as saying MMA only have Fedor.

                2nd, Fedor has 28 fights not 13 or 15 like you stated. It's not like he's fought cans or had a couples of flukes. He fought the best available in PRIDE, now it's time for UFC.

                3rd, Mirko ''was'' considered to most dangerous striker in MMA but rust can catch anyone. I'm very disapointed in Crocop also but being a Pride OWGP winner is a very big achievement.

                If we talk about skills. Of course an MMA fighter will probably not have the same striking abilities than a boxer. I don't even know why we are comparing them. What's for sure is that both MMA and Boxing requires alot of skills, courage and determination.

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                • Brave_turtle
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by C-Drone
                  If I hated MMA so badly, how would I know all those guys, and know that they lost, and why woud I have watched the recent UFC they telecasted on SpikeTV? If your response is just going to be something that takes no insight and is just "Blah Blah Blah Hater" Don't respond... I like MMA and Boxing.. Boxing is just better to me. And PRIME for PRIME.. Boxing has and wil have more popularity in my personal opinion.
                  Like I say, you have the right to have your own opinion. But please, get some real fact and back them up. Your argument, was very biased and had no truth or proof behind it.

                  Saying that you like MMA just because you watched it is not enough. I watch curling on Sunday but it doesn't make me a fan and I don't feel the need to diss the sport in order to bump my favourite sport.

                  You make me feel like I'm a boxing hater now, which I'm not. But the nonsense comments against MMA is just unacceptable.

                  - ''MMA are just bunch of animal hitting each other''

                  - ''MMA doesn't require skills''

                  - ''MMA will die because anyone can lose''

                  - ''MMA will die because they have no dominant stars'' (Your's)

                  The fact is, MMA has been doing a lot better than Boxing lately. In my original post I stated the various boxing problem. I listed proven facts and faced reality, you on the other hand showed no credibility.

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                  • THe TRiNiTY
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Brave_turtle
                    Like I say, you have the right to have your own opinion. But please, get some real fact and back them up. Your argument, was very biased and had no truth or proof behind it.

                    Saying that you like MMA just because you watched it is not enough. I watch curling on Sunday but it doesn't make me a fan and I don't feel the need to diss the sport in order to bump my favourite sport.

                    You make me feel like I'm a boxing hater now, which I'm not. But the nonsense comments against MMA is just unacceptable.

                    - ''MMA are just bunch of animal hitting each other''

                    - ''MMA doesn't require skills''

                    - ''MMA will die because anyone can lose''

                    - ''MMA will die because they have no dominant stars'' (Your's)

                    The fact is, MMA has been doing a lot better than Boxing lately. In my original post I stated the various boxing problem. I listed proven facts and faced reality, you on the other hand showed no credibility.
                    I didn't say anything about boxing being more popular right now. That's true. I'm just saying, I don't see it having an effect on the world like boxing has. Boxing termanology has impacted the English lecicon.. Has MMA? I've yet to hear someone say.. "Man, the boss is really 'rear-naked' choking me." I hear.. "The Real McCoy" and "He's down for the count" all the time.

                    Has an MMA bout ever had an impact on the world like Louis/Schmeling? One or two? I doubt it... If MMA proves me wrong.. ten, twenty years from now, I'll take all this back. Until then.. YOU need the facts, not me.

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                    • Brave_turtle
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by C-Drone
                      Has an MMA bout ever had an impact on the world like Louis/Schmeling? One or two? I doubt it... If MMA proves me wrong.. ten, twenty years from now, I'll take all this back. Until then.. YOU need the facts, not me.
                      What does Louis/schmeling has to do with everything? Care to explain with quotes and intelligent arguments?

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