Could Emmanuel Augustus Have Been a P4P Fighter?

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  • EMPOROAR
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    #11
    No...you cant just coast through boxing and expect to be great. You have to have more then great skills (which, by the way, Augustus DOES NOT have), you have to have great determination, a great fighters tempermant, and most importantly great determination. Fighters like Kirkland Laing, Wilfred Benitez, fighters who did not need to train come once in a life time. Augustus was not one of those fighters.

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    • shawn_
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      #12
      The main factor in most of his losses has been lack of activity during rounds, and incredibly bad decisions.

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      • Fox McCloud
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        #13
        Originally posted by shawn_
        The main factor in most of his losses has been lack of activity during rounds, and incredibly bad decisions.
        He didn't have good enough boxing skills to pile up rounds, he didn't have one punch knockout power... he wasn't accurate enough to land a bunch of punches to wear his opponent down (at least against good fighters).

        How was this guy going to be elite again?

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        • shawn_
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          #14
          You really need to watch some of his fight, and read up on him a little before you make statements like that.

          He is a very accurate puncher, He isn't a huge puncher, but he does have the skills to pile up rounds.

          If he was managed to be a superstar from the begining of his career, he would have become a p4p level fighter.

          Unfortunately, he made a career out of fighting very good opposition on as little as 2 days notice.

          He could box, he could brawl, and he could take your will to fight away with his style.

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          • Steak
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            no p4p fighter...but ABSOLUTELY he could have been a titleholder. He had beaten title challengers like Burton, Oliveria, Toledo, and Mike Griffith, had a very close fight with title challenger and tough guy Micky Ward, and had a very close fight that could have gone either way against Leavander Johnson, who did end up winning a title.

            but ifs and buts mean very little in the end.
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            Last edited by Steak; 02-11-2011, 05:25 AM.

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            • edgarg
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              #16
              Originally posted by DWiens421
              What did he bring to the table that could have beaten Mayweather or Corrales on his best night, because those were the two P4P fighters in his weightclass back near the turn of the century, I haven't really looked at his career since.

              I really don't think that he had enough talent to beat anyone really good, so I doubt he could have ever eclipsed the list.
              DWiens 421. The accepted P4P top guy Mayweather had ALWAYS said that his toughest fight was against Emmanuel Augustus. And if you saw the fight you'd agree. He had a terrific fight against Micky ward too, when Ward was at his best, and, in my opinion won that fight although in Ward's home town, they gave it to him. Augustus, in MY opinion anyway, had all the makings of a genuine P4P top guy. He was hopelessly handled, didn't train properly, would go in against a cageful of tigers, and did a lot of fooling around, AND used to pride himself in taking fights at a couple of days notice, in the other guys home town. So where did all THAT get him?? Nowhere !!

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              • Fox McCloud
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                #17
                Originally posted by edgarg
                DWiens 421. The accepted P4P top guy Mayweather had ALWAYS said that his toughest fight was against Emmanuel Augustus. And if you saw the fight you'd agree. He had a terrific fight against Micky ward too, when Ward was at his best, and, in my opinion won that fight although in Ward's home town, they gave it to him. Augustus, in MY opinion anyway, had all the makings of a genuine P4P top guy. He was hopelessly handled, didn't train properly, would go in against a cageful of tigers, and did a lot of fooling around, AND used to pride himself in taking fights at a couple of days notice, in the other guys home town. So where did all THAT get him?? Nowhere !!
                Micky Ward lost that fight to him in my opinion, but it was very close.

                I watched Mayweather-Burton... and I was not impressed. Mayweather decided to leave the defense at home... but if he says it, I guess that's his call.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DWiens421
                  Micky Ward lost that fight to him in my opinion, but it was very close.

                  I watched Mayweather-Burton... and I was not impressed. Mayweather decided to leave the defense at home... but if he says it, I guess that's his call.
                  I thought Augustus beat Ward clearly but closely.

                  And that Mayweather fight was a war and Mayweather was callin it his toughest fight for a while. i doubt he'd still say that though.

                  But that was his most non-stop action fight, next to mabe Chavez. It was a grueling fight and Mayweather got nailed with some very good left hooks that bloodied his nose

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                  • edgarg
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DWiens421
                    Micky Ward lost that fight to him in my opinion, but it was very close.

                    I watched Mayweather-Burton... and I was not impressed. Mayweather decided to leave the defense at home... but if he says it, I guess that's his call.
                    You're almost right about Mayweather leaving his defence at home. But Mayweather knew that Emmanuel couldn't hurt him. I HAVE the fight and have watched it several times, and it seems to me that Augustus altho believed that mayweather couldn't hurt him either. And this was actually the case until near the very end, I believe in the 9th or 10th round. They really both put on a very spirited show, with each taking over in turn and showing blinding spped and accuracy. Mayweather was probably hit more in that fight than in any 3-4 fights together. That's probably what he means by saying that Emmanuel Augustus was his toughest fight. I've heard him say this at least 4-5 times. He always gives him his full name, and shows respect.

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