What makes a Golden Boy?

[Macho_Time]

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[ßringer]

LMAO, I love Hopkins.

[xcaret]

damn thats pretty messed up tho. lol

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

The Oscar formula

Oscar had that x factor, something you can't describe. He was and still is beloved by everybody who watches the sport, and some who don't know anything about it. He' a once in a lifetime kinda guy in that regard.

Oscar is the luckiest mutha****a alive. He is the right combination of alot of things.

Talent - he has enough of it to be competitive in every fight. And he stayed committed.

Exposure - He was in the 1992 Barcelona Olympics which was a hugely popular and succesful Olympic Games. All of the athletes benefited from the Dream Team exposure.

Good Looks - he is a handsome guy, and that draws the women, Madison Avenue, and the gays. He is an Anglo-appearing Mexican, so he gets white babes and the square-hipped quinceanera Mexican girls

Backstory - his mother had cancer and they did Olympic profiles about that. He dedicated his gold medal to her, which got him a lot of justified sympathy. He handled that loss very well.

Bilingual - He speaks very good English and decent Spanish... appeals to both crowds

LA-Based - He is from a huge metropolitan area. So he has a large , built-in fan base. And LA is close to Vegas, allowing his fans to drive in.

Business Savvy - He has been focused on the right things almost from the outset. He did a good job in getting his name out there

Management/Promotion - Bob Arum is great at getting his fighter's name out. Mayweather is a huge star despite being largely unlikable personally. Arum pushed hard to get margarito a big fight, and Arum already has Cotto slated for his third PPV. ODLH needs to remember all that Top Rank did for him.


Timing - AND THIS ONE IS HUGE!! - Oscar came up in the mid 90's when alot of BIG names were available to fight. Camacho, Chavez, Whitaker, etc. And they were all aging and beatable. So he put some class A names on his resume, even though they were Class B fighters at the time. That helped him get alot of exposure.

Big Fights - Oscar had top quality guys in their prime available : Shane and Trinidad. Both those guys are likable and the Tito fight did 1.2 mil and the two Shane fights did a combined 1.6 mil

Controversy - The boxing public talked about the Whitaker, Quartey and Trinidad fights. Disputed decisions -IF HONEST - are good for boxing. That keeps his name on the lips of the boxing public.


I'VE PROBABLY MISSED SOME FACTORS... WHAT ELSE?

[Sin City]

amazing olympic talent, awesome back story [one a gold medal @ the olympics for his mother that died of cancer].. always facing the best and beating some realy good, if not great names.

[Fox McCloud]

Oscar is the luckiest mutha****a alive. He is the right combination of alot of things.

Talent - he has enough of it to be competitive in every fight. And he stayed committed.

Exposure - He was in the 1992 Barcelona Olympics which was a hugely popular and succesful Olympic Games. All of the athletes benefited from the Dream Team exposure.

Good Looks - he is a handsome guy, and that draws the women, Madison Avenue, and the gays. He is an Anglo-appearing Mexican, so he gets white babes and the square-hipped quinceanera Mexican girls

Backstory - his mother had cancer and they did Olympic profiles about that. He dedicated his gold medal to her, which got him a lot of justified sympathy. He handled that loss very well.

Bilingual - He speaks very good English and decent Spanish... appeals to both crowds

LA-Based - He is from a huge metropolitan area. So he has a large , built-in fan base. And LA is close to Vegas, allowing his fans to drive in.

Business Savvy - He has been focused on the right things almost from the outset. He did a good job in getting his name out there

Management/Promotion - Bob Arum is great at getting his fighter's name out. Mayweather is a huge star despite being largely unlikable personally. Arum pushed hard to get margarito a big fight, and Arum already has Cotto slated for his third PPV. ODLH needs to remember all that Top Rank did for him.


Timing - AND THIS ONE IS HUGE!! - Oscar came up in the mid 90's when alot of BIG names were available to fight. Camacho, Chavez, Whitaker, etc. And they were all aging and beatable. So he put some class A names on his resume, even though they were Class B fighters at the time. That helped him get alot of exposure.

Big Fights - Oscar had top quality guys in their prime available : Shane and Trinidad. Both those guys are likable and the Tito fight did 1.2 mil and the two Shane fights did a combined 1.6 mil

Controversy - The boxing public talked about the Whitaker, Quartey and Trinidad fights. Disputed decisions -IF HONEST - are good for boxing. That keeps his name on the lips of the boxing public.


I'VE PROBABLY MISSED SOME FACTORS... WHAT ELSE?

Personality - A very nice guy... always gives his opponents their due after fights. Forgave Mayorga after he did **** punishable by death in most countrys. So nice in fact, that he is good friends with everyone that beat him.

[frankpaganini]

wat makes a fighter sell like De La Hoya does,i mean wat did he do,did Jones ever make ppv #s like De La Hoya, i mean he's lost some of his biggest fights Hopkins Mosley I, supposedly Trinidad,yet he sells like no other,and he's not exactly the most entertaining fighter,im not saying he sucks, no way ,just wondering how he became what he is

Oscar de la hoya is a great fighter.

that is the first step to taking the record for ppv sales (topping tyson-holyfield) BUT while being a great fighter is most important its only part of the equation.

he's a people's champ. everyone loves a "rocky" type fighter...

he's down to earth. he's seems like a regular guy. someone who seems they could live next to you.

he's a good guy...rarely talks trash (well he never talks too much trash).

thats what makes him so liked is that he's:
A) a great fighter
B) a peoples champ (someone you could stand behind in a fight easily)
C) down to earth (seems almost like a regular guy...someone who doesnt have millions)
D) he's a good guy. every generation needs a few good guy fighters.

thats what makes oscar de la hoya so popular and liked.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Personality - A very nice guy... always gives his opponents their due after fights. Forgave Mayorga after he did **** punishable by death in most countrys. So nice in fact, that he is good friends with everyone that beat him.

Ya know, in a way, I kinda hold this against Oscar. He doesn't have enough "dog" in him. I'm not a ****** dude, but I wish Oscar was a bit more gangsta and less corporate. I wish he had more "hunter" in him. (remember during 24/7, Roach said ("this is a fight, **** him"?). Oscar doesn't have that mean streak that Ali or Tyson or Mayweather have.

He seldom seems angry enough at a loss. He puts on a plastic face in the ring, and then hurls a string of profanities in the tunnel (Tito fight). Shane is the same way.

I LIKE that Hopkins and Winky show you that they cared about winning, and they are angry that the decision went the other way.

[Max_E_Padd]

cos oscar is the best fighter ever,my dad even told me that.i also heard he eats chitlins.

[Fox McCloud]

He seldom seems angry enough at a loss. He puts on a plastic face in the ring, and then hurls a string of profanities in the tunnel (Tito fight). Shane is the same way.

I admire him for being able to tell Tito good fight, even after the scorecards were announced... I would have told him he is a god damn fraud, and that he should burn in hell (even though it wasn't his fault).

It amazes me that Oscar was able to hold it together after some of his losses, but I guess all is well when controversial decisions go both ways for a guy. Now someone like Quartey, that guy has a right to start killing people in the ring after he gets a bad decision, because that is all that guy gets.