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  • Technical_Skill
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    How does Barrera Box Pacquiao?

    Time to talk about one of the most intriguing fights of the year, and its intriging for a reason, we know Pacman has devestating power at 130 and can take anyone out at any given moment, but we also know he is seriously vunerable to genuine boxing skill.

    In Morales vs Pacquaio 3, morales actually outboxed manny for portions of the fight, his downfall was that he didnt have the legs to avoid a rentless pacman and that left hand he reapeatedly throws.

    Ive noticed a few people picking Barrera to win, which i can see if he manages to get out of close quarters with manny, if i was barrera i would circle away from manny's left and pump the jab, manny likes to jump in and fire combos, a solid jab should make him think twice about coming in.

    Most important of Barrera's chances is that he Cannot be drawn into war with Pacman, when Barrera gets hit, his first instinct is to hit back, if he does that with pacquiao, i reckon he could see a repeat of the first fight, if Barrera gets hit, he has to get over it and move on, without getting into a brawl.

    For Pacquiao he has quite a few options, his boxing skills have improved, he can't outbox barrera, but he can mix it up, boxing in parts and jumping in on Barrera and drawing him into a fight, or he can just walk barrera down and try and punish him, in my opinion the fight depends on him and how he decides to approach the fight, know Pacman he will probably play to his strengths and jump in with power shots trying to hurt barrera rather than wins rounds against him.

    So that's my take on it, i favor manny in this one, simply because i dont think barrera can outbox him and survive the full 12 without getting hurt, when he gets hurt i think he will revert to the old barrera who solves his defensive problems simply by hitting back.
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    Originally posted by Technical_Skill
    Time to talk about one of the most intriguing fights of the year, and its intriging for a reason, we know Pacman has devestating power at 130 and can take anyone out at any given moment, but we also know he is seriously vunerable to genuine boxing skill.

    In Morales vs Pacquaio 3, morales actually outboxed manny for portions of the fight, his downfall was that he didnt have the legs to avoid a rentless pacman and that left hand he reapeatedly throws.

    Ive noticed a few people picking Barrera to win, which i can see if he manages to get out of close quarters with manny, if i was barrera i would circle away from manny's left and pump the jab, manny likes to jump in and fire combos, a solid jab should make him think twice about coming in.

    Most important of Barrera's chances is that he Cannot be drawn into war with Pacman, when Barrera gets hit, his first instinct is to hit back, if he does that with pacquiao, i reckon he could see a repeat of the first fight, if Barrera gets hit, he has to get over it and move on, without getting into a brawl.

    For Pacquiao he has quite a few options, his boxing skills have improved, he can't outbox barrera, but he can mix it up, boxing in parts and jumping in on Barrera and drawing him into a fight, or he can just walk barrera down and try and punish him, in my opinion the fight depends on him and how he decides to approach the fight, know Pacman he will probably play to his strengths and jump in with power shots trying to hurt barrera rather than wins rounds against him.

    So that's my take on it, i favor manny in this one, simply because i dont think barrera can outbox him and survive the full 12 without getting hurt, when he gets hurt i think he will revert to the old barrera who solves his defensive problems simply by hitting back.
    if barrera works hard as **** in is stamina he may have a chance to box pac like he boxed junior jones in their second fight(what a robbery by the way...)

    the problem barrera has when boxing is he tires easy, he boxes phenomenally for 7 rounds, then starts getting overly cautious and extremely passive, i thought it was more because he was too dumb to notice the ****** judges never score properly, but i have noticed this from him in all the fights he has tried to box, so i think its a stamina issue......

    if he boxes like he did that night, jab while circling to avoid the big hand of his opponent, then be flashy so they cant steal him the round with a flashy combination inside, step back and circle more..... that way he could win almost every round but as i said, i dont think he has the stamina to do this more than 7 rounds.....and if he manages to survive, its obvious barrera will get the bad end of the decision if he doesnt win at least 10 rounds(then again, he won at least 9 vs junior jones and they still stole it from him...)

    the only problem i have with this is that i dont know if barrera has the jab to keep pacquiao form coming, it is a ver good jab but not as strong as morales'

    and of course barrera could brawl with pacquiao and diminish pac's power inside, because barrera is the best body puncher and fighter inside, but i dont think he can risk getting hit by pacquiao with his chin, again not as good as morales'.....

    i think its possible if barrera boxes the perfect fight, he could pull it off, but i doubt they'd give him a decision, because when boxing, barrera really isnt flashy enough to avoid bad decisions...

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    • WLAD OWNS
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      #3
      Anyone who thinks Barrera can pull this fight off is a complete dellusional nutcase. This fight will be no different than Pac/Morales lll. Pac will beat his ass worse than last time and end his career.

      PAC MAN TKO 6

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      • BrooklynBomber
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        #4
        I am picking Pac man in this fight, but if Barrera wants to be able to do anything he should just stick and move as much as possible.

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        • merjohn32
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          #5
          I think it's up too Pacquiao to lose this fight. If he continues to train like an idiot then he is giving Barrera a chance to win. He won the first bout because he was able to put continous pressure on Barrera and did not allow him to recover. i doubt that pacquiao will be able to do that if he continues to play basketball while training.

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          • Welter_Skelter
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            #6
            I dont really expect MAB to win this fight.. But it's not inconcievable..

            Mostly it depends on PAC.. from what I have been reading PAC is not focused..
            And he is being ****y to the point where he might be surprised and Ill prepared for the man in front of him..
            Too many people.. PAC included.. seem to think this will be a cakewalk..

            people like to keep mentioning how much better PAC has gotten..
            This is only half true.. because most of it based off The last 2 fights VS Morales.. Pac Got better But morales also got worse.. It meets about halfway..

            On the Other hand MAB has gotten better himself...He can BOX quite well and brawl if needed..

            This fight could look like a repeat of the 1st one.. OR it could also look more Like Pac Morales 1 ...

            I think it will really depend on which version of each man shows up that night..

            But I favour PAC..

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            • Steak
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              Originally posted by -Hyperion-
              if barrera works hard as **** in is stamina he may have a chance to box pac like he boxed junior jones in their second fight(what a robbery by the way...)
              wow, no kiddin? Ive hear that the decision was dodgy, but I figured it was just a close fight, as I never have gotten the chance to see the rematch for myself.

              I dont think its impossible at all for Barrera to win...he would be able to outbox Pac like he did Hamed, and showed he knows how to deal with southpaws when he brutalized Fana a year or two ago. Fana isnt Pacquiao, but has gone on to win a title and defend it a few times, and Barrera devestated him.

              Barrera definately showed he could still box against Marquez too. But does he have enough left at this point of his career? maybe not...so I dont know.
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              Last edited by Steak; 02-11-2011, 05:19 AM.

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              • xzworks
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                #8
                i will not be suprised if barera wins by UD or SD...or pac win by KO..

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                • EMPOROAR
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                  #9
                  Pacs way too fast for Barrera. Barrera cant box him because he doesn't have the legs to stay away from Pac for 12 hard rounds. Morales was able too because he was circling after the jab and when Pac would jump in he would infight and win the battle. Barrera cant do so because (IMO) he isn't, or I guess wasn't, as overall talented as Morales.

                  Pac easy win.

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                  • -Hyperion-
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by blackirish137
                    wow, no kiddin? Ive hear that the decision was dodgy, but I figured it was just a close fight, as I never have gotten the chance to see the rematch for myself.

                    I dont think its impossible at all for Barrera to win...he would be able to outbox Pac like he did Hamed, and showed he knows how to deal with southpaws when he brutalized Fana a year or two ago. Fana isnt Pacquiao, but has gone on to win a title and defend it a few times, and Barrera devestated him.

                    Barrera definately showed he could still box against Marquez too. But does he have enough left at this point of his career? maybe not...so I dont know.
                    i saw it yesterday, junior jones only wins 2 rounds clearly, barrera wins 5 that there was no way to steal from him, because he schools jones, another round was close, i gave it to jones, the other 4 rounds barrera dominates clear as **** but in the last 30 seconds jones flurries and misses everything, but i know the ****** judges gave him all of those, i gave all 4 to barrera, anyone with eyes could see it, but lamps, merchant and rjj were all over jones' nuts......

                    i had it 9 rounds to 3 for barrera......
                    Last edited by -Hyperion-; 09-04-2007, 11:06 AM.

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