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  • oovavu
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    #21
    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
    Mayweather is far from indestructible. But at this phase in his career, and with his fight style and capabilities, it requires a certain type of fighter to beat him.

    Someone taller/longer with quick hands and a good jab. And a solid defense. The way that Winky controlled Tito. Or that Forrest controlled Shane. Boxing smart, but with physical advantages. That is the style that would beat PBF. Not a shorter , slower, and less skilled man. With poor defense. Who swells up easily. Not this little pink man. Not now.

    Hatton had an opportunity to take fights (multiple) earlier in PBF's career. Because of Ricky's fear, he turned those down. But he actually had a better chance back then. I would have given Ricky a solid chance in the Corley/Bruseles era. Floyd was willing to slug/brawl. And that is what RH likes.

    In the meantime, PBF has grown bigger/stronger, and has been fighting and sparring with MUCH larger men. So Hatton's main advantage went away.

    After fighting Delahoya/Kofi jantuah/Daniel edouard/Carlos baldomir, FMJ won't be fazed by Ricky's "strength".
    I can see where your coming from, I've been reading these forums for a while and you seem to be one of the most knowledgeable posters on here, but I don't think you're completely right, I think mayweatehers main weakness is fear, I don't think he knows completely what hattons going to bring on the night and i can imagine that worrying him abit but im pretty new to the boxing game and im just going on what i see, so take it with a pinch of salt, and have a good night

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    • Amaro
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      #22
      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
      Amaro,

      I thought we spoke before about the silly insults.

      Don't be one of those childish, cowardly guys behind your monitor.

      Anyway, I'm trying to get my points up... would you like to wager all of the points you have the week before the fight? We can agree now, and then we'll see what you have on fight week. Deal?
      we didn't speak lol you just kept sending me messages asking me to stop, dude stop taking it so personal it's just part of my nature...and yeah we got a deal just hopefully I can get a lot more points by fight week so it'd be a little more fair lol

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        #23
        Originally posted by oovavu
        I can see where your coming from, I've been reading these forums for a while and you seem to be one of the most knowledgeable posters on here, but I don't think you're completely right, I think mayweatehers main weakness is fear, I don't think he knows completely what hattons going to bring on the night and i can imagine that worrying him abit but im pretty new to the boxing game and im just going on what i see, so take it with a pinch of salt, and have a good night
        Thanks for the comp.

        I do think that Floyd is going to take a couple of early rounds to get a grasp on what Hatton is doing before PBF makes adjustments and gets down to business.

        The problem here is that I don't think Hatton has (or can effectively execute) a "Plan B". WHAT IF Hatton finds that The Floyd is killing him inside? WHAT IF Hatton finds that The Floyd is the stronger man?

        Do you think RH can step outside and box?

        side note: If PBF was nervous, why would he take on this Dancing/Stars fiasco? If anything, I think he is OVERLY confident.

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          #24
          I don't think Mayweather's afraid. he just fights smart. so people take that as being a "coward" if he isn't willing to slug it out vs Baldomir for example. and him using a more defensive style also isn't being cowardly ... its called fighting smart.

          Floyd doesn't have to know completly what Hatton brings to the fight night. but im sure he has an idea. (Castillo, Chavez pressed the fight, swarmed) so does Hatton.

          I would think that Ricky is more so afraid. Dios and several other posters have acknowledged that Hatton has had several opportunities to make a fight with Mayweather, but declined. explain that.

          hell go to bbc.com I've seen Ricky Hatton talking about fighting Kostya way back in 2000 .. yet he finally fights Kostya in 05.

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          • DIOS DOMINICANO
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            #25
            Originally posted by Amaro
            we didn't speak lol you just kept sending me messages asking me to stop, dude stop taking it so personal it's just part of my nature...and yeah we got a deal just hopefully I can get a lot more points by fight week so it'd be a little more fair lol
            I don't take it personally. i would just like to try to elevate the discussions a bit. I'm here to talk about the sport that I'm addicted to. I see so many threads end up in these pissing contests...and I don't want to get dragged into that.

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            • MJ406
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              #26
              game plans .... no backup

              The problem here is that I don't think Hatton has (or can effectively execute) a "Plan B". WHAT IF Hatton finds that The Floyd is killing him inside? WHAT IF Hatton finds that The Floyd is the stronger man?

              good point about that. the RH interview you pulled up, Hatton said so there, that he doesn't think he can box PBF.

              from a strickly stylistic stand point .. since Hatton has the shorter reach, and can't outbox Floyd ... by process of elimination he'll have to come forward and swarm.

              and that either works or doesn't. self explanatory. (working would be if he can get to the body, clinch, bully Floyd etc)

              but comparing Hatton going into this fight .. vs the Kostya one. Hatton and his team had a solid game plan. to smother Tzyou so he couldn't line up and land the big right hand.

              what can you say there game plan is vs Mayweather?

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              • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                #27
                Originally posted by MJ406
                what can you say there game plan is vs Mayweather?
                Same plan as always. I think Hatton is hatton. Like Frazier was frazier. Which is not a bad thing. Hard to argue 43-0.

                But Ricky hasn't faced someone with the footwork and ability to sidestep and counter like PBF. His top comp has been Tszyu and JLC. Not exactly the fleetest of foot.

                If Floyd prepares to keep this in the middle of the ring...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by msagrain
                  i no this is old news below, but this will be mayweathers excuse when hatton beats him, he will claim he didnt have enought time to train.

                  Ricky Hatton has been given an amazing advantage over Floyd Mayweather, according to Evander Holyfield.

                  The pair fight on December 8 in Las Vegas - but ahead of the clash, WBC welterweight champion Mayweather is to appear on US TV show 'Dancing with the Stars'.

                  Mayweather, 30, will devote two days a week to filming the reality TV show - which begins on September 24 and ends just two weeks before he faces unbeaten 'Hitman' Hatton, 28.

                  And Holyfield, who also appeared in the show two years ago, insisted: "I definitely wouldn't be thinking about trying to do that.

                  Advertisement"They worked me harder than boxing.

                  "Dancing is a good work-out, but it's stressful on your mind to learn different dances. It's difficult."

                  But undefeated Mayweather declared: "It's an unreal, unbelievable opportunity. It's a new test, and I've got a lot to learn. It's a true test. But I can learn it.

                  "The dancing will help my boxing. It will help with my balance.

                  "The fight, I'm not really worried about. I know I can handle that."
                  No floyd is not like that
                  if floyd looses n feels like he lost then he will own up an say
                  i lost to the better fighter this night
                  but i know im better

                  if he feel like he won but the judges give it to hatton
                  then i could see him makin excuses.......so hatton needs to KO floyd so floyd will no he lost the fight

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                  • oovavu
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                    Thanks for the comp.

                    I do think that Floyd is going to take a couple of early rounds to get a grasp on what Hatton is doing before PBF makes adjustments and gets down to business.

                    The problem here is that I don't think Hatton has (or can effectively execute) a "Plan B". WHAT IF Hatton finds that The Floyd is killing him inside? WHAT IF Hatton finds that The Floyd is the stronger man?

                    Do you think RH can step outside and box?

                    side note: If PBF was nervous, why would he take on this Dancing/Stars fiasco? If anything, I think he is OVERLY confident.
                    I think he can step out the box but against pbf i don't know i mean the way he fights now is the way hes fought against ppl he can bully because it is effective, i think hes going to have mix it up alot, to what effect i don't know but I reason hes gonna surprise alot of people, hes not gonna out box floyd with his stumpy arms but floyd isn't that unorthodox hes just alot quicker than most, just needs to pick his shots, and try and get into a rumble, i say just in a loose sense of terms lol

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                    • MJ406
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                      #30
                      variables

                      yeah Hatton at 28, is pretty much as good as he can get .. (not hate, just a fact) and you know what your gonna get with Ricky.

                      "But Ricky hasn't faced someone with the footwork and ability to sidestep and counter like PBF. His top comp has been Tszyu and JLC. Not exactly the fleetest of foot."

                      exactly. compare how Ricky neutralised Kostya. swarming to avoid the counter right hand. thats 1 concrete thing that Hatton had to do. but

                      vs Mayweather there's the handspeed, footspeed, overall speed, and lets not forget defense.

                      keep in mind that the fight with Kostya was a pretty close fight, with ricky pulling away after the 8th round.

                      and Kostya made it somewhat close (it wasn't a wipe out)
                      by fighting at Hatton's pace, with Hatton controlling the action, and ring.

                      Floyd's gotta keep it in the center, counter, and dictate the pace.

                      *hell vs Castillo, Hatton still got hit 50 plus times. but obviously got overwhelmed, hurt to the body and kayo'd. because he was fighting at Hatton's pace.

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