How Many Fighters Have Rocked Miguel Cotto?

[Welter_Skelter]

Ok A few Things NEED to mentioned here..

First of all .. Let's not get all bent over by LOWBLOWS against Judah.. Not unless we remember round 10 of Judah VS Mayweather.. OK?

Life has a Way of giving back what You put into it.. Some people here are making it sound like Judah is an Angel..
DID Cotto throw a few low blows?? Yes he did.. Was he Being out boxed early in the fight? Yes he was.. DID the Low Blows make a difference..??

NO.. I dont think they did.. and here is WHY..

What was so different about this fight to any other Judah Fight..??? Nothing.. It's always the same.. He starts BIg ..and then.. in way that makes DLH green with Envy.. He FADES..

Close the End of the fight.. Judah Simply allowed Cotto to land 4 consecutive left Hooks without even TRYING to defend them.. HE GAVE UP...

I know that might be HARD for some people to swallow.. BUT Judah QUIT..

Some Cotto fans Will without a second thought.. Say it was Cotto who made him quit..
And they are half right..

Whatever the reason(s).. Judah gave up...

[ßringer]

Ok A few Things NEED to mentioned here..

First of all .. Let's not get all bent over by LOWBLOWS against Judah.. Not unless we remember round 10 of Judah VS Mayweather.. OK?

Life has a Way of giving back what You put into it.. Some people here are making it sound like Judah is an Angel..
DID Cotto throw a few low blows?? Yes he did.. Was he Being out boxed early in the fight? Yes he was.. DID the Low Blows make a difference..??

NO.. I dont think they did.. and here is WHY..

What was so different about this fight to any other Judah Fight..??? Nothing.. It's always the same.. He starts BIg ..and then.. in way that makes DLH green with Envy.. He FADES..

Close the End of the fight.. Judah Simply allowed Cotto to land 4 consecutive left Hooks without even TRYING to defend them.. HE GAVE UP...

I know that might be HARD for some people to swallow.. BUT Judah QUIT..

Some Cotto fans Will without a second thought.. Say it was Cotto who made him quit..
And they are half right..

Whatever the reason(s).. Judah gave up...

It was half due to Miguel's body assault and half due to the fact that Zab has nothing inside his breast plate, and he really hasn't in a long time. He shows up to fight for about 6 rounds, and if you can weather his pinpoint stingers for those rounds, you win the fight. Period.

[-Antonio-]

The low blows probably took something out of Judah, but one thing people fail to realize is that Cotto got hit low too. He just didnt roll around and scream right after.

[Addison]

Ok A few Things NEED to mentioned here..

First of all .. Let's not get all bent over by LOWBLOWS against Judah.. Not unless we remember round 10 of Judah VS Mayweather.. OK?

Life has a Way of giving back what You put into it.. Some people here are making it sound like Judah is an Angel..
DID Cotto throw a few low blows?? Yes he did.. Was he Being out boxed early in the fight? Yes he was.. DID the Low Blows make a difference..??

NO.. I dont think they did.. and here is WHY..

What was so different about this fight to any other Judah Fight..??? Nothing.. It's always the same.. He starts BIg ..and then.. in way that makes DLH green with Envy.. He FADES..

Close the End of the fight.. Judah Simply allowed Cotto to land 4 consecutive left Hooks without even TRYING to defend them.. HE GAVE UP...

I know that might be HARD for some people to swallow.. BUT Judah QUIT..

Some Cotto fans Will without a second thought.. Say it was Cotto who made him quit..
And they are half right..

Whatever the reason(s).. Judah gave up...

I'd like to think Cotto will have the favor returned, but I don't think it will be a man like Shane Mosley who does it to him.. Maybe someone else in the future..

I'm not sure who is making Judah sound like an angel... Certainly not me.

And as far as the low blows not having any effect; as I have already stated several times - many journalists, Boxers, promoters, trainers and fans all agree they had a tremendous effect on the outcome. Even the simple poll I made here on this website was close to a 50-50 spilt with nearly 40 of the 80 or so voters in favor of the low blows effecting the outcome. Miguel Cotto himself acknowledged the seriousness of the matter by constantly and repeatedly apologizing for his actions..

Getting hit in the balls full force multiple times by "one of the hardest body punchers in the sport" is going to have an EFFECT. Why even dispute that?


I do agree that Judah was looking like a loser regardless - and like you said to me when I first got back - Judah let Cotto off the hook - he gave it away.

When we talk about the end of the fight, like a corrupted timeline - that time-space of those later rounds were a direct product of events preceeding it. And those events included two of the harder low blows seen in recent memory. Everybody, and I mean everybody, acknowledges Judah stopped throwing somewhere immediately after the second low blow - onward. Aside from a little sporadic action and a brief onsalught by Judah in the 7th..

The last time we had something like this was back in 2000 when Vargas was fouled by Trinidad.. And we all know how that played out..

I'll dig up what Ice Man was saying about this, but primarily this has to do with common sense. A hard enough nut shot can send someone to the hospital. An infant can do damage to testicles - it doesn't even take a specialist like Miguel Cotto to floor a grown man.. Let's assume all Cotto's power and training still makes it the equivalent of getting slammed with a baseball bat full force even with the padding. It's not rocket science.

[ELPacman]

Yes, it is pretty ****** I agree with that..


But not quite as ****** as your "How many can't stand Floyd's drama BS" thread made a week ago.

Did you really have to add another "**** Mayweather" thread to the pile of 80 million already in existance or is there not enough material on the subject?

Could you at least take a funny or intelligent angle and make it interesting?


Kinda funny having a guy who makes threads like "Is Chavez Jr. gonna KO 80 bums before taking on a legitmate opponent?" calling my thread ******..

Yet, they were all well received, as opposed, to this pure hate thread. Don't try even sounding intelligent with your posts, when your just as much of a hater as anyone else. I've given Floyd credit for his skill in the ring, just not the way he handles himself in any other regard. Now if you want to call that hate, go ahead. But when you are asking about how many opponents rocked Cotto, assuming you want us to think, he's got a bad chin, your not getting far. The main people that rocked Cotto BAD were big punchers(Torres-Zab). He got hit by a shot on side of temple with Corley and that realy messed up his equilibrium. Anyone would have gotten messed up with that. The other shots are really stretching it. And besides, when all is said, it's not like he ever lost these matches and in most cases, dominated all of them.

[Addison]

The low blows probably took something out of Judah, but one thing people fail to realize is that Cotto got hit low too. He just didnt roll around and scream right after.

It sounds like you're implying that Judah OPTED to roll around, as has been alleged by only those on the Cotto side of this debate.

If what you're saying is true, and we are all having a realistic, respectful view of things - because let's be serious for a minute - Judah may be many things - but calling him a flopper is a FAR STRETCH. There is no basis and no behavioral history to support that unless you have some evidence.

Quite simply; the fouls Judah recieved were obviously much worse than anything that happened to Cotto - so why even invoke it?

[Addison]

Yet, they were all well received, as opposed, to this pure hate thread. Don't try even sounding intelligent with your posts, when your just as much of a hater as anyone else. I've given Floyd credit for his skill in the ring, just not the way he handles himself in any other regard. Now if you want to call that hate, go ahead. But when you are asking about how many opponents rocked Cotto, assuming you want us to think, he's got a bad chin, your not getting far. The main people that rocked Cotto BAD were big punchers(Torres-Zab). He got hit by a shot on side of temple with Corley and that realy messed up his equilibrium. Anyone would have gotten messed up with that. The other shots are really stretching it. And besides, when all is said, it's not like he ever lost these matches and in most cases, dominated all of them.

**** what you're talking about.. :wank:

The only people crying about this thread are the ****ing fanboys and those I have chosen to engage directly.

You saying this is "hate" is a ****ing joke.

I'm pointing out the scientific truth.

Reality.

This isn't a matter of opinion. It's a matter of information gathering.

The threads you have made are direct ATTACKS on the character and careers of the fighters you single out.


You are a ****ing HYPOCRITE.

[Addison]

Yet, they were all well received, as opposed, to this pure hate thread. Don't try even sounding intelligent with your posts, when your just as much of a hater as anyone else. I've given Floyd credit for his skill in the ring, just not the way he handles himself in any other regard. Now if you want to call that hate, go ahead. But when you are asking about how many opponents rocked Cotto, assuming you want us to think, he's got a bad chin, your not getting far. The main people that rocked Cotto BAD were big punchers(Torres-Zab). He got hit by a shot on side of temple with Corley and that realy messed up his equilibrium. Anyone would have gotten messed up with that. The other shots are really stretching it. And besides, when all is said, it's not like he ever lost these matches and in most cases, dominated all of them.

Oh, and mother****er - nobody is trying to do ****.

If I sound "intelligent" that is because of two things:

1) That is your perception

2) That is reality

[The Troll]

no one at 147. He took Judah's best shots who's considered a puncher by most people.

[ELPacman]

Oh, and mother****er - nobody is trying to do ****.

If I sound "intelligent" that is because of two things:

1) That is your perception

2) That is reality

This is you, sounding like a joke. This thread was hate being concealed in the simplest way possible, as you knew it was spark anger and piss fans off, so you could engage them. Don't try to hide it. You not fooling anyone.