Who is a great?

[Fox McCloud]

so 2 wins and a draw and some power makes him a great? i stick with what i said man, yea it was huge that he beat Morales and Barrera, but we will need to see if he can beat him again and get a fight with Marquez

You set the bar pretty ****in high for greatness. But I do agree that rematch with Marquez would be ideal to prove his greatness.

[Verstyle]

lol i wouldnt call pacman a great, i think he is a pure mans gatti on terms of how exciting he is,just like gatti he is always in good fights and because of this people say he is great, jst IMO obv cos alot of people think different Hopkins deffo, he goes up in weight n fights bigger guy n dom him great fighter and yea, someone would call Jr a great, when really hes jst a prospect

Yeah Manny's not great. YET.

[Verstyle]

Pacquiao knocked out Barrera and Morales twice, and did some impressive **** to Marquez before getting some impressive **** done back to him, but I think that resume, along with his insane amount of power for his weight class probably would make him considered a great.

It takes consistency of winning and longevity to even be considered a great.

[Fox McCloud]

It takes consistency of winning and longevity to even be considered a great.

Then the answer to the question is no one, because no one can create a legacy with longevity and still be in their prime.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Yeah Manny's not great. YET.

Not after he gets destroyed by Guzman.

[Verstyle]

Then the answer to the question is no one, because no one can create a legacy with longevity and still be in their prime.

Ali did? Foreman did? alot of ppl did. You dont have to be in your prime to still win.

[Verstyle]

Not after he gets destroyed by Guzman.

Bull****.Too much Manny for Guzman. He plays around too much in the ring.

[Fox McCloud]

Ali did? Foreman did? alot of ppl did. You dont have to be in your prime to still win.

I don't know of anyone who cleaned up everything when they were still in their prime, maybe Ali, because he beat the biggest fighters in the division, but by the time he beat Frazier for a third time, he was on the down side of his career.

[Verstyle]

I don't know of anyone who cleaned up everything when they were still in their prime, maybe Ali, because he beat the biggest fighters in the division, but by the time he beat Frazier for a third time, he was on the down side of his career.

You dont have to beat everyone down in your division to be a great. Jumping weightclasses and being successful at it could make you a great.

[Ironside]

Manny Pacquiao
Winky Wright
Bernard Hopkins
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
and Carlos Baldomir

Joking about Baldomir.

I think Hopkins and Wright still are, even though they are old, because they have styles that don't rely on their bodies carrying them. They use their ring knowledge, or stellar defense to win fights for them. No matter how old you are, you can keep your hands up like Winky does, and I still haven't figured out how Bernard Hopkins gets everyone else to play his game in the ring, but I know it's probably not too physically taxing to do so.

Agreed, they are all great, although many people might say they are not, but that is only because they are still fighting. Most of the time, when the fighter is retired people start giving him credit and considering him in the ATG's. I am 100% certain that al of these fighters would be considered HOF. There's no reason for them not to. And Hopkins truly amazes me. He's in his 40's and can still hang with the best out there. He is a freak of nature.