Lol, look at this Floyd idiot

[BmoreBrawler]

Faulting Floyd for not making it a toe-to-toe fight in rounds 5-12 means you have to fault Oscar for not making it a toe-to-toe fight as well.

I'm not faulting him, Im saying it wasnt a toe to toe fight. it was still very good.

On the other hand, oscar vs mayweather was really bad because the runner wouldnt kick the **** out of a broken down mentally beaten oscar and was given an unearned gift decision over a true warrior. I take solace in that Oscar tried the same **** vs Trinidad, so maybe it was just fate for him to be robbed again, but back then the judges didnt take ****. There is no way those judges give floyd that fight, over their dead bodies.

Oscar learned from his mistake vs trinidad, lets see if Floyd can learn the same in spite of him getting away with the murder of boxing on its biggest ppv night.

[Fox McCloud]

Why are you trying to say its ok for Floyd to be boring just because some fighters get injured?


So what do you like about Floyd's fights then or do u just like jumping on the bandwagon of whoever wins?

His fights are boring - period.

I think avoiding brain damage is a legitimate excuse for not blocking punches with your face.

The way Floyd **** talks is absolutely amazing... that is what drew me to him in the first place (Ricardo Mayorga is my 2nd favorite fighter). His fight against Baldomir was the first live fight I had ever seen... and I was in awe that he couldn't be hit. I didn't even know he was P4P #1 at the time... but I went home and started downloading his fights. Quite a few are exciting, like the one I am going to post for you now.

So... WATCH THE N'DOU FIGHT.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Philip N'dou
http://www.**********.com/?d=3CMDRPKG

Seriously, you will enjoy this fight if you watch it. The difference between that fight and his current fights are that he is in a weightclass where he doesn't have to worry about being significantly outweight by his opponent like he did against Baldomir and De La Hoya.

[BmoreBrawler]

I almost fell for his pro-wrestling quality **** talking until he showed his true colors in the ring...that sombrero act won me over for a couple rounds though, that was priceless. Too bad Hatton stole that gimmick, theres some real psychological issues between him an mayweather.

[Fox McCloud]

What are you talking about?

No it does not mean brain-damage...look at Ali, he wasnt a pure brawler. Most boxers fit my category of warriors, its the small minority of ******* like Cory Spinks and Floyd mayweather that tote the "hit and not get hit" line and nothing else.

I dont expect ppl to take 2 shots to give one buddy, but if the guy is waiting for a 1-2 to the noggin, give it to him because youre a fighter for cryin out loud!

Well Erik Morales is retiring because "all the shots to my head are starting to get to me." Or something along those lines.

I agree that if a fighter is ready to go, then he should get him out of there, and really, only in the Baldomir fight can I remember him not doing that, which he claimed was the result of a hurt hand. I am definately not advocating what he did in the Baldomir fight... that was bad for boxing IMO, but what he did in the ODLH fight? I mean, can anyone honestly fault him for picking that strategy when he was moving up to his 5th weight class? Anything else would have been suicide against a fighter who has enough power and speed to punish Floyd if he was sharp (which he indeed was on May 5th).

[The Weebler]

So... WATCH THE N'DOU FIGHT.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Philip N'dou
http://www.**********.com/?d=3CMDRPKG

Seriously, you will enjoy this fight if you watch it. The difference between that fight and his current fights are that he is in a weightclass where he doesn't have to worry about being significantly outweight by his opponent like he did against Baldomir and De La Hoya.

Can I trust this download?

[BmoreBrawler]

Faulting Floyd for not making it a toe-to-toe fight in rounds 5-12 means you have to fault Oscar for not making it a toe-to-toe fight as well.

Well Erik Morales is retiring because "all the shots to my head are starting to get to me." Or something along those lines.

I agree that if a fighter is ready to go, then he should get him out of there, and really, only in the Baldomir fight can I remember him not doing that, which he claimed was the result of a hurt hand. I am definately not advocating what he did in the Baldomir fight... that was bad for boxing IMO, but what he did in the ODLH fight? I mean, can anyone honestly fault him for picking that strategy when he was moving up to his 5th weight class? Anything else would have been suicide against a fighter who has enough power and speed to punish Floyd if he was sharp (which he indeed was on May 5th).

See, I would disagree with you. What he did to baldomir was OK in my book because Baldy has a granite chin and it was clear that Floyd wasnt going to put that hoss away.

The ODLH fight on the other hand, he had the speed advantage, reach advantage, and a full tank going into the late rounds while oscar was throwing like 6 punches a round. There was no excuse to not open fire.

His plan was to tire Oscar out, which he did(in the process losing many, many rounds- I have been to amateur fights where they would never score those kinds of sorry jabs to gloves that Mayweather was "landing"), and then finish Oscar off in the late rounds. the guy barely landed anything for 6 rounds, but the judges and punchstat ppl who decided he was going to win anyway scored points to him. Instead, he pitty-pattied a Hasim-Rahman type walking zombie De La Hoya. What excuse does he have? The guy was smiling in the ring knowing he could win if he wanted it, but he was so scared that he played it safe to near ODLH/TITO TRINIDAD levels.

[Fox McCloud]

Can I trust this download?

Dead ****ing serious... it's just an AVI file. I'm not going to give you a virus just because we are bitching at each other on a forum, that would be a ***** move.

I've also posted it on the video downloads section on this site:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133676&highlight=n%27dou

And I like this site enough that I'm not going to get myself banned by posting some ****** **** to **** everyone over.

[Fox McCloud]

See, I would disagree with you. What he did to baldomir was OK in my book because Baldy has a granite chin and it was clear that Floyd wasnt going to put that hoss away.

The ODLH fight on the other hand, he had the speed advantage, reach advantage, and a full tank going into the late rounds while oscar was throwing like 6 punches a round. There was no excuse to not open fire.

His plan was to tire Oscar out, which he did(in the process losing many, many rounds- I have been to amateur fights where they would never score those kinds of sorry jabs to gloves that Mayweather was "landing"), and then finish Oscar off in the late rounds. the guy barely landed anything for 6 rounds, but the judges and punchstat ppl who decided he was going to win anyway scored points to him. Instead, he pitty-pattied a Hasim-Rahman type walking zombie De La Hoya. What excuse does he have? The guy was smiling in the ring knowing he could win if he wanted it, but he was so scared that he played it safe to near ODLH/TITO TRINIDAD levels.

He could have trapped Baldomir on the ropes and ended it that way IMO.

Anyways, Baldomir has a great chin, but Oscar has a pretty damn good one too... I can't think of any time that he has been really hurt except for the B-Hop body shot... even the Quartey knockdown didn't seem to be super significant, like he was in danger of being KO'd because he was stunned.

I don't know... I guess Floyd thought he was winning the rounds, because even if what you say is true about his punches not really landing... some judges just kind of resent when fighters try to steal rounds by flurrying, and Oscar did that in a lot of rounds that he didn't do anything in. When Oscar flurried, Floyd had controlled the ring generalship and effective aggressiveness categories up to that point (I want to kill myself for sound like Harold Lederman)... even if judges aren't down with awarding rounds to the way Floyd fought... at least he tried to fight all 3 minutes of almost every round. Seems like a nightmare fight to score if judges like fighters to fight all 3 rounds and cleanly land shot.

[sonofisis]

All boxer's eventually get brain damage unless they drop out relatively early or keep sparring to a minimum. The name of the game is not avoiding pain, thats just a part. Its boxing, and what makes boxing so great is the FIGHTING aspect of it, otherwise its just fencing with gloves. And you so-called "boxing experts" with your elitist views need to admit that trying to hurt the other guy and fighting smart are not mutually exclusive...YOU CAN DO BOTH!

Boxing is the art of hitting without getting hit; your contorted "blood n guts" version doesn't apply.

[The Weebler]

Boxing is the art of hitting without getting hit; your contorted "blood n guts" version doesn't apply.

Thats not why we watch it. We watch it in the hope of a Gatti-Ward trilogy or a Benn/McClelland war.(obviously not wanting injury).

1 nil to the Arsenal was never what we wanted 2 see.