Old arguement between Jones and Hopkins about a rematch

[sonofisis]

LOL

not the day they fought.

Fighting an unexperienced Hopkins in 1993 and winning awkwardly gets you no stripes if you can't give him a rematch. Especially when he beat up two people (Johnson and Tarver) that beat you up..

[Easy-E]

Hopkins couldnt touch Roy and he knew it.
Thats why he turned down the biggest payday of his career to NOT fight Roy.

[Sin City]

I still believe Hopkins is as talented than Jones but never got the credit he deserved because of a combination of two different factors.

1.) His division wasn't ripe with talent at the time of his reign.

2.) He didn't move up and down the scales to capture every title he could.

Jones is a great fighter, and an all time great no doubt but Hopkins is also a great fighter and an all time great in his division. In a rematch now I think Hopkins would take Jones easily, back then? I'd say it would've been a coin toss. Because Hopkins had reached his peak at the time and Jones was already at his.

he still lost the first and did not deserve 50/50 at the time..
How are you gonna expect to get payed the same as someone who beat your ass the first time?

[ßringer]

Hopkins couldnt touch Roy and he knew it.
Thats why he turned down the biggest payday of his career to NOT fight Roy.

I seriously doubt that Bernard Hopkins didn't think he couldn't take Roy. Hopkins has never been one to talk **** about a man he didn't know he couldn't beat. I think it was more to due with the fact that Hopkins was fresh off of dismantling the sports biggest star at the time in Tito, and thought that that warranted a 50/50 split. Hopkins was the biggest star in his division, and Roy was the biggest star in his. 50/50 probably seemed fair to Hopkins, but that's not the way this sport works.

[ßringer]

he still lost the first and did not deserve 50/50 at the time..
How are you gonna expect to get payed the same as someone who beat your ass the first time?

See above, PM me and let me know how RATM was and how your "tour" turned out. I haven't been around to find out.

[Sin City]

See above, PM me and let me know how RATM was and how your "tour" turned out. I haven't been around to find out.

Dude I got to LA and couldn't go.. I went to the beach a couple times but then other then that just stayed at my aunts doing ****... It was really ****ing lame, I was supposed to stay longer and stay with my other aunt and cousin Wendy and they were gonna take me out but another friend of mine died and as soon as I heard the news I came back home.

[wmute]

I seriously doubt that Bernard Hopkins didn't think he couldn't take Roy. Hopkins has never been one to talk **** about a man he didn't know he couldn't beat. I think it was more to due with the fact that Hopkins was fresh off of dismantling the sports biggest star at the time in Tito, and thought that that warranted a 50/50 split. Hopkins was the biggest star in his division, and Roy was the biggest star in his. 50/50 probably seemed fair to Hopkins, but that's not the way this sport works.

I agree: it was out of pride, not of fear.

Still Roy being the 3 division champ with the better resume and just being the draw overall deserved more money.

[ßringer]

Dude I got to LA and couldn't go.. I went to the beach a couple times but then other then that just stayed at my aunts doing ****... It was really ****ing lame, I was supposed to stay longer and stay with my other aunt and cousin Wendy and they were gonna take me out but another friend of mine died and as soon as I heard the news I came back home.

**** bro.....I'm really sorry about that.

[Knicksman20]

Fighting an unexperienced Hopkins in 1993 and winning awkwardly gets you no stripes if you can't give him a rematch. Especially when he beat up two people (Johnson and Tarver) that beat you up..

If you're going to use this argument you could say the same for Jones. They had almost the same amount of fights (Hopkins had 1 more than Jones I believe). They were both the #1 & 2 contenders for that belt as well. They were both at the same level at the time of the fight.

[El Dominicano]

Fighting an unexperienced Hopkins in 1993 and winning awkwardly gets you no stripes if you can't give him a rematch. Especially when he beat up two people (Johnson and Tarver) that beat you up..

I agree...See what you typed says it all. But peps on Boxing scene won't take this into consideration for some ****** reason. Hopkins became a much better fighter later on and RJJ didn't want none! He much rather fight the bums he been fighting. Hopkins makes a good point in the video. He says wait you just said your bigger then me! This being true because RJJ fights at 170++ and even fought at heavyweight. That should have given him reason to take the fight. RJJ then started talking **** and not letting Hopkins finish what he said to say because he knew what he said was ******.