Thoughts on De La Hoya.

[Palma]

Hooked you up Dr Cynical with some good Karma points on your last thread.

[Tha Greatest]

ya

oscar is tha greatest he is young and has lot of time

[rsl]

me personally, i think he did well against hopkins for the first 3 rounds. in the 4th you could see he was starting to slow down, he didn't end with any fluries after that( his round stealing strategy), like the previous rounds.... but he's way to rich now to have that edge, and i don't care what anyone else says. when you got a **** load of cash, the last thing you really want to do is fight, you can talk about history and glory, honor, and all that. but you really lose the fighting edge, that hunger that makes you a balls out fighter when your rich, look at all the things he's accomplished in the ring (and out). maybe avenging his lost to tito would give him some fuel, but thats about it...

he really doesn't have anything to prove to anybody anymore, he's a great fighter and was a great champ, his plate is still full with boxing, just not with him in the ring anymore, as a fighter...

one example of a fighter who saw some cash and couldn't keep his edge was Vernon Forrest........

Like Fernando Vargas said " It's hard to get up 5 in the mornin' to run 5 miles when you sleep in silk pajamas" and folks that is the real reason why OSCAR DE LA HOYA DID NOT GET UP and instead chose to pound the canvas. It's true I or we weren't the ones that got hit on that area but I really think that Oscar found a way to quit he just plain and simply didn't wanna fight. Forget the bodyshot for a second. Something about the early rounds too, I myself was thrown off with Oscar's strategy, but in my eyes he sure had a funny way of showing that he was the aggressor if you have the chance to review the "boring" fight whenever he would lead and do some of those flurries, I don't think he was really committed on landing anything, its as if he did 'em not to be on the offense but more to defend himself. Am I making sense here? Sorta similar as to when Roy Jones Jr. fought Tarver the second time. The best way for me to analogize it is , it's like someone pulling their guns out first, but hesitant to pull the trigger. I'd like to hear your guy's feedback. One funny image I have when Oscar De La Hoya threw those flurries against Bernard Hopkins, it looked like a man swinging his arms wildly because he's being swarmed by mosquitoes(lol) again someone defending themselves not someone going on the attack!

[jabsRstiff]

rsl....

I saw everything you described. You are dead-on.

The people on here who are calling that fight "tactical", "scientific", or a "boxing match" are either Oscar fans or people who really don't know the meaning of the words in quotes, when applied to this sport.

[Tha Greatest]

what

oscar is one of tha greatest hall of famers
he went from a ****in featherweight to middle weight
n u guys all think he should retire
i think he shouldnt and ya i dont think he should have a 3rd with mosley because we all know they robbed oscar
i think a rematch with tito
then wright,then sturm, then hopkins again

[Tha Greatest]

yo

Oscar couldn"t deal with the reach of the middleweights.

i agree wez
and thats why i think oscar should have a few matches against like other middleweights like robert alllen or william joppy,
u dont go to tha undisputed middleweight champ rite away

[The Texican]

oscar is one of tha greatest hall of famers
he went from a ****in featherweight to middle weight
n u guys all think he should retire
i think he shouldnt and ya i dont think he should have a 3rd with mosley because we all know they robbed oscar
i think a rematch with tito
then wright,then sturm, then hopkins again

TELL THEM BRO. REMIND ME, HOW MANY BELTS HAS HE WON?

[Dr Cynical]

TELL THEM BRO. REMIND ME, HOW MANY BELTS HAS HE WON?

Why did you resurrect this thread?

[psychopath]

DLH won't be a dominating figure in the MIDDLE WEIGHT DIVISION so he might as well stay at 147 where he can compete at his best.

And I have posted this and I'll post it again, if he is planning to fight ever again he shouldn't be mentioning ALL HIS INJURIES or otherwise he should go straight to retirement.

[MrSmith]

a fully motivated DLH Beats Winky easy in my opnion. Winky has been called underrated for so long he has become shamelessy overrated. Winky up until Mosley had lost ever time he had ever stepped up.

DLH couldn't handdle the size and strenght of Hopkins, but Winky is not a big strong pressure fighter he is a slick boxer and DLH can outbox him

I was skimming through this thread looking for some other post that I wanted to respond to and I ran into this idiot's post. LMAO... This dude is so cross - eyed from staring at DLH's taquito. I know this is an old post, but did he type what I think he just typed(ROFL).

First off, he says, "Winky ain't a strong pressure fighter, and more of a slick boxer".

Umm... Exactly how old is this fool, and have you seen DLH vs. WHITAKER? Now everybody knows, that Winky isn't in the same mold that PERNELL was, however Winky today and years back would kick the crap out of DLH! And it ain't even up for debate PERIOD.

Man, against DLH, Winky will box, pressure, lean, and SMACK the **** out of DLH. For however long DLH is willing to take a beating. I'll say this, it might be difficult... Knowing DLH, he's got them golden track shoes he borrowed from Michael Johnson(lol).

Here's some proof...

- DLH has shown that he doesn't have the aptitude to fight
southpaws(please don't bring CAMACHO sr. as your weapon,
you're only lowering yourself further)

- DLH has shown he can't handle a solid jabber w/ reach.
See- STURM)

A guy w/ a world-class jab, great defense,
and a S-O-U-T-H-P-A-W stance to boot. FAWGET 'BOUT IT!